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The Existence of God

Is there really a God? Or did everything just poof?


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  • Jun 15 2013: (Cont;d)... this is my last one..
    Christ claimed to reveal God, which means He obviously attested to His existence in the first place. If God became man, then you would expect him to:
    1. Have an unusual entrance into this life (i.e. the Virgin birth - read the early portions of Matt and Luke)
    2. Be without sin - John 8:46 and a whole host of other verses
    3. Manifest the supernatural in the form of miracles - which were recorded by eyewitnesses (i.e. the Gospels)
    4. Have an acute sense of difference - even the Koran refers to him as the greatest above all, even the prophet Mohammed
    5. Speak the greatest words ever spoken e.g. I am the way, the truth and the life; "never did a man speak the way this man speaks" (John 7:46)
    6. Have a lasting and universal influence - again, millions of people believe in God through Christ across the world
    7. Exercise power over death - He rose again from the dead. A true life historical fact.

    When someone seriously examines the evidence of Christ, and what he did and claimed, and the lasting impression he's had over 2000 years, the existence of God becomes a question that is immediately answered.
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      Jun 15 2013: I guess Jesus was a very charismatic and enlightened individual.

      Did he do and say everything attributed to him in the bible. I don't know.

      Did he resurrect. I don't know. I suggest it is far from a historical fact, just like we don't know if Adam, Eve, Noah or Abraham ever existed, or that a donkey talked, or that a man lived in a whale, or an angel ordered Hagar to go back to her slave owner and accept her mistreatment, I could go on and on.

      What I do know is that even if he did resurrect, we don't really know how. It also doesn't automatically follow he is a god. And a resurrection is not really evidence of universe creation or any other unsubstantiated claims.

      Not everyone assumes the bible or Koran or whatever is a reliable source of information in all regards.

      You obviously do, but I suggest there are parts that clash with science and others that we simply do not have sufficient information to verify one way or the other.

      I would normally ask why you believe the bible is true, but I probably can guess the answers and go over old ground refuting these.

      Its probably enough to point out that many see no rationale reason to believe the entire bible literally, and that asserting your conclusions on a premise many don't accept is a dead end.

      Does the bible says that Jesus said "I am God"? And even if he did, saying it, and even resurrecting doesn't make him God necessarily. He certainly never said he was an omni god. He could be a god, but we doubt have enough evidence to reasonably support this I suggest. I guess that is where faith comes in.

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