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The Existence of God

Is there really a God? Or did everything just poof?

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    Jun 12 2013: I prefer the existence of god without the involvement of religion.So far,people's arguments over the existence of god are based on religion,or started by religious perspective.

    I hope,and probably there is a god,but has no interaction with man or the creature,no prophets,no heaven and hell.But a god that determine our life before our birth,everyone has a unique path of life which is determined by god,that's what I call,destiny.You may think during our life,we move up and down,but these are all destined.You may think we make choices,mistakes,win and lose,but these are in codes and scripts of an application,where we are heading to,what we are going to acquire are definite.

    I am convinced that a god is an unthinkable entity,who prints our destiny,period.
    • Jun 12 2013: i like what you said: god is an unthinkable entity. :)
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      Jun 12 2013: That is an interesting paradox. You are thinking and describing something as unthinkable and unknowable and claiming to know something about it.
    • Jun 12 2013: If He's unthinkable, how does he have the ability to map out our lives?

      What do yo mean by "religion"? I agree that pretty much every religion apart from what the Bible says is man-made. I personally think Christianity is not a religion. But a relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ.
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        Jun 13 2013: I mean if there is a god ,that god is unthinkable for man's capability,we can not think about god doesn't have to mean god can't mapping our life.

        I mean Christianity,Islam,Buddhism,etc. are religions.So what are Islam and Buddhism in your eyes?
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          Jun 13 2013: So what you're saying is that god is unthinkable of yet we had to think of him to come up with the thought that he exists?
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        Jun 13 2013: I mean what unthinkable about god is god's shape,age,gender,whereabout,ect. But through our destiny we posit god exists.

        I want point out that I don't know personally god exists or not,I want to explain my point of view beyond the argument between atheist and theist,religion and nonreligion.
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          Jun 13 2013: I guess you mean we cannot know or comprehend gods nature

          If there are beings worthy of the name gods I tend to agree, because no one seems to be able to agree. But I suggest this is because there is no reliable evidence of their existence let alone there nature and whether they worry about what we wear or eat or got busy killing some animals and making some skin coats for Adam and Eve.

          The destiny aspect is interesting. You seem to be suggesting some agency or driving force.
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      Jun 12 2013: God interacts with humans through His emissary, The Holy Spirit. It is only by accepting Him into your life that you begin to actually feel His presence.
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        Jun 12 2013: Jonathan,
        I suggest that our thought process and feelings are so connected, that with any thought, idea or belief we choose to accept, we will "feel" it. What you, as an individual choose to "feel", does not necessarily mean that everyone will feel the same thing.
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          Jun 12 2013: Colleen,
          what did you feel? I only ask because of your Catholic upbringing and your near death experience.
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        Jun 12 2013: What did I feel about what Jonathan?
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          Jun 12 2013: I will put it another way, what was your experience with Christianity? If you do not feel that it is an invasive question?
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        Jun 12 2013: I do not feel it to be invasive Jonathan.....thanks for asking....I'll keep it simple, and I am glad to discuss more if you wish.

        I was born into a catholic family, and for the 19 years I studied and practiced that religion, I mostly felt that people within the group were not walking their talk. When I left my home of origin, I abandoned that religion because I felt that it was contradictory and hypocritical.

        Fast forward 23 years....
        I began exploring, researching, studying and practicing (at different times) various religious and philosophical beliefs, and I also revisited the catholic tradition as a study, not a practice.

        So, for about 40 years all together, I explored religions and philosophical beliefs in depth. I had a similar feeling with all of them.....the basic beliefs may have been good, and people within the organization were not walking their talk.

        The near death experience had nothing to do with religion or religious beliefs. I experienced my "self" as energy (no human characteristics), and observed the body on the bed in ICU. I believe that if the body died, which it was very close to, the energy that fueled the body would go back into the "universal grid" so the speak. I did not meet a god "out there".
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          Jun 12 2013: Thank you for sharing. I have had similar experiences with different Christian denoms. There was a lot of talk but not much walking. I just try to walk it as best i can with what i know. And of course to share about Him either when asked or in a "polite" discussion, such as here.
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        Jun 12 2013: You are welcome Jonathan. We all have many different life experiences, and what I shared is simply my story....my experience. I am not attached to you or anyone believing it to be truth. It is only my truth, and it might be shared by some other folks.....or not.

        When you say things like everybody else's beliefs are false, it continues to divide and seperate, which seems to be a contradiction of the basics of religion, which tell us that we are all one.....interconnected....made in the image and likeness of god.

        I really believe that we are all interconnected, and I also believe that we all have different interpretations of everything. As I said in my first comment to you.....I respect your beliefs as your beliefs, AND I recognize our interconnedtedness. I respect the fact that we have different interpretations of information, and I accept that. I have no need to try to convince you that my interpretation and belief is "right". You see how we are a little different in that respect?

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