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Does your country have an Electronic Direct Democratic (E2D) party?

I'm curious to find TEDsters who know of, or are members of any E2D party that might exist in your home country.

I'd like to hear some of the success stories you've had and how the general implementation of the party is going.

I'd also really like to talk to and/or help anyone thinking of starting a new E2D party in a country.

In case you haven't heard of E2D (which most of you likely haven't) I'll provide a link to the manifesto here: http://e2d-international.org/manifesto/

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    Jun 12 2013: Arkady, Perhaps the cause of why the E2D sounds appealing could be discussed. In recent years polls have shown that politicians are about equalivent to used car salespeople in the USA. Laws have been passed admittedly without being read ... many in backrooms without the benefit of the other party being present .... many are by Executive Orders and "back doored" into existance.

    I have the same fears as Pat. The poor and middle class would continue to seek entitlements that would be impossiable to fund making work a poor alternative to staying home and being given every need through the taxation of others willing to work.

    Perhaps the easier solution would be to limit terms and government size by returning to a Constitutional government and allowing the states to address their needs at that level. Our elected officials have but two concerns election and re-election and I might add a third how many perks and means of obtaining wealth can be achieved while in the millionares club on the hill. They have legislated themselves elite status.

    A continuing joke in Illinois is that the dead still vote ... electronic voting has been subject to violations in monitored polling places where "precautions" are in place .... one man in Arizona "collected" four thousand mail in ballots and delivered them to the poll ... just helping his neighbors ... what a nice guy.

    This may work ... however, the greater problem is a government to large to support ... curruption .... etc. Once the power is returned to the states then other means can be examined and implemented in a government that is closer and more responsiable to the people.

    Maybe ... just maybe ... it would stop $50,000 a plate dinners to bash the wealthy ... a fool and his money .. etc...

    I wish you well. Bob.
    • Jun 22 2013: Perhaps we are no longer a democracy but have morphed in to a plutocracy? This may have spurred the interest in such things asE2D.
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        Jun 22 2013: In the case of the USA we are a Republic but your point still is valid.

        Thanks for the reply. Bob.
    • Jun 23 2013: Sometimes I wonder whether systems that incorporate electronic voting or direct democracy that have been tried before have intentionally been made to fail.

      It is difficult to excuse voting machines giving incorrect tallying, or punching holes in the wrong places. It is not really that complicated on a technical level.

      That is a bit of a conspiracy theory which I try to avoid, but in cases like this non-transparent private companies like Diebold have been commissioned by politicians to deliver an eVoting machine, what is delivered is proven to be a failure and the population gets scared of eVoting, cementing the need for representatives and inefficient hand voting. Next time around the same company is used..

      Your comment about the 4000 mail in ballots made me think of this, it is not that hard to regulate against voter fraud, or at least eliminate the bulk of it, if there is a bureaucratic and public will to do so. We have computers now, data is not that hard to cross-reference.


      One note I wanted to mention for a while here is there are already systems of direct democracy in our societies, but they are inefficient, to complicated, and can be ineffectual.

      Referendums - limited scope of what issues are being put on the ballot, getting asked the question once and then being stuck with the result, requirement to physically take time to visit a voting booth at a prescribed time.

      Citizen Initiatives - this is where if a certain number of signatures are collected over a set period of time the government has to address an issue (in some countries not, the government may "consider" the issue). The signature collecting process is so costly and difficult only groups with large resources can consider it, and in many countries any issue can be ignored or indefinitely delayed by politicians, making the process moot.


      Almost as if those who designed the systems (politicians) do not want them to be an effective way to judge public opinion.

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