Jah Kable

Thinker ready to be unleashed upon the world,

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How do you feel about the protests in Istanbul?

Just want to know how people feel about these unfolding events and the crimes being committed against these protesters.

  • Jun 2 2013: The whole world is watching Turkey now and PM Erdogan knows it. Already the police have at least partially withdrawn from Taksim. President Gul has called for restraint. This is a major test of Turkish democracy and is the first time that demonstrations on this wide a scale have taken place in Turkey during the age of social media - video clips of the protests have gone viral on a grand scale - there's no covering up the police abuses this time. I think (and pray) that the government is going to have back down and allow peaceful protests without massive police intervention and take a long hard look at the policies that led them to occur. The demonstrators, for the most part, who represent all segments of Turkish society, have been peaceful and non-violent. We all need to support the principles of freedom of expression and assembly in Turkey.
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      Jun 3 2013: That is great to hear! I haven't seen any videos that are as current as i'd like but i hope that means the horrific crimes have stopped! These events should have never taken place! The world will always be watching and YouTube gets to many more people than a TV news show. I have personally shared a multitude of videos repeatedly using Facebook. There isn't going to be any denying this and no excuse should be accepted. Erdogan need to be removed immediately. It has been shown now that he will kill his own people if he felt the need and LIE to the world about it.
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      Jun 3 2013: CNN is scheduled to show hours upon hours of Anthony Bourdain's Parts Unknown... maybe Anderson Cooper will mention it.

      This is what CNN does when something like this happens. American media is a joke! The internet is our only hope of truthful journalism. They are even trying to control that with C.I.S.P.A. An American Revolution is coming as well if the government does not begin to loosen these restraints they've placed in the name of "national security".
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        Jun 3 2013: A revolution is coming either way, if they let people speak freely it will come and if they try to suppress us it will also come. People will die. on all sides.

        Unless we make a quick political transition, but very few big things happen fast in politics without bloodshed... It's sad... and it'll be exciting to see what will happen.
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          Jun 3 2013: That's true and I will happily bleed and shed blood for what i believe in. I JUST NEED TO GET MY FAWKES MASK ALREADY! Me and my priorities!
  • Jun 2 2013: Thousands of people are protesting not only in Istanbul but also Ankara,Izmir and other 45 cities.Childrens,elders,socialist,nationalist,non muslims,women protest against Destruction of Park,alcohol ban and many other new laws.It is not political,it's peaceful protest,however police use of force,then everything is changed -just watch videos from people cams - Last night streets are filled with teargas and rocks;today protesters are cleaning up streets in Taksim.(I mean many protesters are not violent-minded)
    Support our peaceful protest ; have a nice and green day :)
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      Jun 2 2013: I'm doing my best to show people what is going on! Most people are, sadly, more ignorant than the gov't that's being challenged in Turkey! I'm losing hope in my country and my people. I wish all these Turkish protesters the best and hope they achieve their goal soon!
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    Jun 8 2013: Follow up to my reply…

    When we were in Turkey, we found that the best source for news was Twitter.

    Here’s a good post by a Turkish woman, http://www.thecultureist.com/2013/06/04/occupy-gezi-istanbul-fighting-to-prevent-the-demolition-of-gezi-park/
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    Jun 8 2013: I think people should be able to peacefully & respectfully have their say.
    I spent 4 weeks in Istanbul with my husband & experienced some of the protests. We stayed in a flat in Sisli & regularly passed through Taksim Square on the metro & funicular. When the protests escalated, the closest we went was a five minute walk away. But we saw protesters, police, & destruction in different parts of the city.
    For the first few days, all was quiet– we didn’t know anything was going on. Then, things changed on 5/31 when the police got involved. On the tram to connect to the Kabatas funicular, there was announcement that Taksim was closed. So we took the other tunnel that stops on Istiklal St & walked in the direction of the flat, which was also toward Taksim. We passed a police staging area where they had gas masks & a water truck. A few minutes later, we saw smoke & a small crowd running toward us from the direction of the square, so we ran down a side street. After walking for about 10 minutes, seeing another small group of people running, & hearing a flash bang in front of us, we grabbed a taxi home.
    The police left Taksim 6/1 & the following afternoon, people returned. The next 2 nights in our neighborhood, people hung Turkish flags out their window, flashed apartment lights, & made a lot of noise (honking horns, pounding spoons on pots, etc.). It seemed like a peaceful way to demonstrate.
    On 6/2, we tried to go to Taksim, but the metro was closed. Our station was the closest to Taksim, so the trains stopped there & everyone had to exit. We saw a group who had just exited singing & chanting– some had Turkish flags, one had a V mask. It did not feel angry or violent.
    On the way to the airport 6/3 at 7:00 AM, we saw a lot of destruction in the streets- debris, piles of twisted metal, graffiti on vehicles, & shattered bus stop enclosures. We passed an area with pepper spray in the air & started to sneeze. We can’t speculate on who caused the destruction or their motives.
  • Jun 6 2013: These kids should be volunteering to help around the flooding in central Europe. I mean the foreign protesters.
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      Jun 7 2013: They might do that if they weren't being dictated and attacked by a democratic politician on a power trip.
  • Jun 6 2013: Clearly the protesters are getting support from Western Occupy, is this and Femen in Tunisia a new form of Western Imperialism teaching them to protest like we do? Prime Minister Erdogan had a 52% approval rating before protests erupted over parks. I'm not saying there's not police brutality sure there's police brutality, their security system did bad things last decade with the extreme rendition. Either way what do the protesters want? Maybe Prime Minister Erdogan proposed Constitution will supply more over sight to the security forces, more accountability, though somehow I feel that's not what you want? So what do the people on the street want? Is it that Prime Minister is said to be heavy handed in a way that threatens the secular nature of the state? Every one knows they shied from the west when their EU membership was a long shot, so they do business with the middle east it probably shielded them from some of the financial crisis but war states like Lebanon Iraq, Syria, Iraq on your border not to financially rewarding. Maybe they just want whole food isn't occupy associated with organic food how much pesticide do they use in Turkey? It's got to be something.
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      Jun 7 2013: They want the Fear to stop. They want the authoritarianism to stop. They want to be truly free and at peace. Not even like the US because we are hardly free and never at peace. I personally am a target of police profiling and harassment on a regular basis. One cop actually asked the do you have weapons question with a twist. And i quote "Do you have any GUNS, KNIVES, or HAND GRENADES?".... I was shock and less surprising my response was more than sarcastic. =D During this specific encounter these "officers" also stopped me from sending a text simply telling my mom she might have to bail me out. They said "You can be telling people to come get us"... Yet again i respond with sarcasm that they do not appreciate. By this time I'm in handcuffs for trying to send said message and my backpack is being illegally searched only to find my laptop which they asked if i stole as well... I may have a bias to authority but it is because of the power they possess that corrupts them not because of the specific person individually.
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    Jun 5 2013: Forget about Istanbul, 140 people were arrested in North Caroline during the latest weekly demonstration led by the North Carolina chapter of the NAACP against the state's Republican-led General Assembly. We (in the US) have our own problems to consider. The protesters in Turkey are holding their own but very little is being said about the protests that occur in the US.
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    Jun 5 2013: I feel sad. When I was younger, I might feel angry. But now I feel sad.
  • Jun 4 2013: A park isn't worth this. You have a full war fought with air force rockets and artillery on one border, an economic crisis on another border. The Turkish government deserves applause for the Kurdish cease fire and with the PKK's Marxist background they'll spread more opportunities for women across the middle-east. It be nice if these protesters could get together and raise funds and supplies for the refugee from Syria. Turkey is like the only Sufi nation right? Odd man out everywhere if they can't get on with themselves who can they get on with?
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    Jun 3 2013: I'm hearing things are calming down but i can't find anything current! Someone provide a link if you know one. All I'm getting from search engines is sports! Thank you in advance!
  • Jun 1 2013: Freedom has to be reclaimed daily. Its just what the turkish people are doing right now. I think its great that they are protesting but terrible that its going the way it does.