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Do you agree with euthanasia? (for humans)

I recently had an argument with 2 of my teachers on this subject. Whenever asked whether they agree with euthanasia or not they were either avoiding to answer or they were completely against it without bringing any arguments to support their opinion.
As far as I've noticed this is a very controversial and sensitive subject but I couldn't find anyone to debate it with.
Both my history and my religion teacher found their safety saying that Jesus says humans have no right to take away anyone's life but they didn't share their personal opinion.
Basically my belief is that endeed we do not have that right but in some cases,when for instance a certain person is too sick and hasn't got any chance of getting better and that person doesn't have the streght or the will to fight anymore and their desire is to die,shouldn't they be given this right?


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  • May 29 2013: From a biblical view point...

    Thou shall not murder. Killing is not murder. We see soldiers defend us and we do not call them murders. In the bible their were many deaths at the hands of the Jewish nation in the name of God. Once again killing in war.
    Jesus said that anger is the same as murder - Sin

    From a legale viewpoint...

    Murder is against the law. The degree of punishment for this varies depending on where and how.

    From a political viewpoint...

    Next question! The subject touches some hot buttons that could isolate a canidate from voters.

    From a persoal viewpoint...

    I don't want to be kept alive by a machine. My wife is aware of this decision. I want a life worth living but I know God has a plan for me better than any I could think of and until my last breath it is for him I live. Until my death or his return I live for him.
    • May 30 2013: Who's biblical point of view? And who's biblical point of view do you use for the law?

      I use to drive by 3 churches on the way to work, one said "Thou shall not murder", the other said "Thou shall not kill", the other said nothing.
      • May 30 2013: Try going in any of them?
        • May 30 2013: No. I couldn't decide who was right.

          And i didn't want to bet my immortal soul on the wrong horse.
      • May 30 2013: Not deciding on that is deciding
        • May 30 2013: not really, as like your original question, to go in is simply put irrelevant.

          As all / any are going to do is try to convert me to their beliefs. Because I doubt if any are open enough to revisit their belief systems to take anything else than their so called faith into account.

          And since they post it on the outside of their church, to go in and question it, again simply put, is irrelevant, and even worse - a waste of my time.

          As much as going into a shop on the day after a sale ends, and asking why the sale is still not current.
      • May 30 2013: And so is this conversation it seems. I hope someday you find faith in God because he has faith in you.
        • May 31 2013: Ah the fatuous "find faith in God because he has faith in you", now really you know that's not a valid argument, let alone it's an assumption that I haven't. Which is incredibly rude and presumptuous.

          Typically that written or said, when a person can't rationalize a point of view into a coherent argument. I suppose the equivalent alternative would be:

          "I hope someday you find the ability to use your brain, because after all you do have one."
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        May 31 2013: I wouldn't go into a church to question their beliefs.
        I'd go to question mine.

        Some question to challenge.
        Some question to understand.

        The first two, perhaps, mean the same thing, just say it differently.
        The one that says nothing is, perhaps, the one worth listening to.
        • May 31 2013: The first two, perhaps, mean the same thing, just say it differently.

          That's what I assumed Arkady , but they, after some research, importantly they DON'T mean the same thing.

          And the comment was given that difference in ideology, and the dangerous assumption that all religions make that there's is the only correct one, I thought that it was an important perspective to raise, with respect to the religious perspective on the subject of euthanasia.
      • May 31 2013: Difference in statements: I intended you good will.
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        May 31 2013: Tify,

        There is a difference between righteousness and self-righteousness. Unfortunately, it is true that religious people are often self-righteous. I don't think, anyone can claim monopoly on truth. If you believe in God, you may add "except God". If you don't, you may leave it at that. It does not change the meaning of this statement.

        It appears to me that the Gospels, generally, condemn self-righteousness and public piety. Those who preach from high horse might want to read Luke 18:9-14. Unfortunately, these "believers" have the most visibility and tend to form public opinion about religion. But most believers I know do not shove their faith into everyone's face.

        This is why the church without a sign seems most appealing to me. This is also why I'm not a fan of forcing my moral choices onto others. The "others line" is not just a "cop-out" as you called it. I feel skeptical about obtrusive moral teachings. And what I write here is not without hypocrisy.

        As for the interpretation of the Biblical commandments, I don't think there is a "right" one. I think, Bible raises questions more than it gives answers. Finding answers is our own job. How do you interpret "Thou shalt not kill" (KJV) or "You shall not murder" (NIV)? Especially, in the context of euthanasia?
        • Jun 1 2013: RE: If you believe in God, you may add "except God". If you don't, you may leave it at that. It does not change the meaning of this statement.

          It can if the implication is posed as that if I dont believe whats being sold, I am just not aware, or somewhat lacking. That is an insult.

          The "others line" is not just a "cop-out" as you called it.---- please quote the comment I cant find what or where it is.

          Let me be very clear I DONT force anyone to take ANY moral line, and I EXPECT the same from them - WHATEVER their believes are.

          Some people just cant seem to either respect the other person enough to do that, or want to feel morally superior because they believe they have been "given" the answers, or are just blind to the fact that there can be alternative viewpoints, and logic and reason have little sway.

          As for the kill/murder/nothing, I thought it was an interesting observation, and a point to put up, as obviously is clearly shows how religion holds sway for some people in this matter, and how it differs.

          Because if we cant see that there are differences, and still respect the other, we are doomed to forever repeat history. Which seems to be happening right now in the middle eas, except these crusades are not for a goblet.

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