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The source of morality

Many times religious people claim that atheist people are immoral, because they have no reason to be good. Claim is false, ungrounded and impudent but it has a point. Atheist people have no base for their morality. When there is no divine ruler; nothing is sacred, everything is permitted. But it is not! Why? Because not! I dumped old beliefs that prohibits samegender sex, or intercourse before wedding or eating pig meat etc. Still my morales very similar with what religion gave us, and when they can say "God forbid it" I can't say anything. I need those explanations. I need proofs that shows incest, bestiality, necrophilia is obnoxious and bad. I need proofs that shows wars ar ugly and bad.

Otherwise someone will just say, the siblings loved each other what is wrong with that? War is best way to develop technology is totally legit and necessary. Torchere is necessary, it can not be removed. No it is mean and ugly! Would you like to be torchered? Why am I a criminal?

I tried to build my own reason. I changed "the good" and "the bad" to "the flawed" and "unflawed" act. Now I can give reasons by revealing flaws of the act I do not approve. It made sense to me. But it is very subjective.

So what do you think about it. If you're not religious, what is your morales based on? Or what community should base their morale on it?

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      May 30 2013: Hi Don. I feel honoured in your analogy but I can not accept the equality to such a status as Fireman. I am a worker bee, that was dipped into the fountain of knowledge. With a Passion to create a better beehive. My status is of a very lowly station and nothing comparative to your analogy.
      But I am going to shine and out shine my negative influences. I have to prove my vision and my only hindrance is finance. My ideal and vision is pure, but without backing you cannot accomplish your dreams.
      They become crazy insinuation or impossible gestures.
      But what is impossible? something that has never been done.
      Everyone look @ life differently. We either complicate it by making it so complicated, bcoz we don't think out of the box. Intellectual regards anything out of the box as impossible.
      So Either I give my ideas away. but will I receive the recognition NO. So what's the use of giving it away. My status will still remain the same.
      In order to create the type of world I envision we need to think beyond funds. but finance is required to start the system. Now that is the reason for Morality being highlighted.

      "I worked hard for what I have and I am not going to give it away unless I get something better in Return"
      Millionaires statement to me. Not long after that he past away, leaving his wealth behind.
      More negative comments were heard at his funeral. His greed for wealth made him stingy scrooge.
      So his wealth did not benefit him in the end. His family was torn apart by the greed of his inheritance.
      Children did not know what to do with their new found Lottery. They became addicts and is under treatment for that. The whole family was torn apart.
      So what is morality? it shows us, to have compassion, kindness, tolerance, acceptance, love, generosity and charity.
      If we don't have this, we don't know true Morality.
      Life is not hoarding your wealth but allowing the democracy of Morality to foster unity and empathy into the hearts of Collective called humanity.

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