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The source of morality

Many times religious people claim that atheist people are immoral, because they have no reason to be good. Claim is false, ungrounded and impudent but it has a point. Atheist people have no base for their morality. When there is no divine ruler; nothing is sacred, everything is permitted. But it is not! Why? Because not! I dumped old beliefs that prohibits samegender sex, or intercourse before wedding or eating pig meat etc. Still my morales very similar with what religion gave us, and when they can say "God forbid it" I can't say anything. I need those explanations. I need proofs that shows incest, bestiality, necrophilia is obnoxious and bad. I need proofs that shows wars ar ugly and bad.

Otherwise someone will just say, the siblings loved each other what is wrong with that? War is best way to develop technology is totally legit and necessary. Torchere is necessary, it can not be removed. No it is mean and ugly! Would you like to be torchered? Why am I a criminal?

I tried to build my own reason. I changed "the good" and "the bad" to "the flawed" and "unflawed" act. Now I can give reasons by revealing flaws of the act I do not approve. It made sense to me. But it is very subjective.

So what do you think about it. If you're not religious, what is your morales based on? Or what community should base their morale on it?


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  • May 28 2013: morality is an evolved adaption we have inherited through the process of natural selection, period. Social and Moral deviance are rare phenomena everywhere you go no matter what religion culture or nation, and even when there are greater rates of deviance in an area its most likey because of a unique circumstance that the subjects are facing or your loosely defining what deviance is. Point is humans are by and large a very socially cohesive species and whether your a Buddhist from China, a Christian from Europe, or a Communist from the Soviet Union, the great majority of us will live our lives within the accepted parameters of our environments social and moral constructs reguardless of place and time.

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