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Keith W Henline

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Open source the government. Use the same open source system that is already working miracles on many of the world’s biggest problems.

We need a government that is a real democracy of the people, by the people and for the people, all the people! We need communities that serve each other and a government that serves the people, all the people. We need a government that protects all the people with the priority being on the simple things like fresh clean air, fresh clean water and preservation of our land. I don't have the answer and you don't either but if we get together and talk about it I am sure WE can achieve what I could not!


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    May 25 2013: The problem is that a lot of individuals inhabit the monolith called government that all act out of their individual interest. In other words they build empires to enhance their survival. They do this through new regulations and new agencies, always creating new ones never getting rid of the old ones.

    Politicians should wear NASCAR style suits with all of their sponsors names on their suits. This is cronyism which pays the billion dollars for a POTUS campaign. And it is remarkably cheap what do suppose the payback is on the investment in a campaign by the financial sector.

    Unfortunately the average citizen is easily manipulated as pioneered by Edward Bernays.

    The only real solution I see is to educate people as to the culture we live in, a study of epistemology. This is an upstream activity as demonstrated by the ubiquitous equality threads on this site. People have to be brought up to a level of knowing they don't know.
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      May 25 2013: “The secret of change is to focus all of your energy, not on fighting the old, but on building the new”- Socrates
      Pat I have read a lot of your comments and I respect you immensely, you seem to have a good handle on plain ole common sense. I think like Socrates said we need to focus on a new way, new ideas, new thinking. We will never get to new ideas if we spend all our time talking about what did not work in the past.
      Your last sentence hit it right on the head and was absolutely true however that is another problem, not a solution or new idea. Let's assume this discussion falls on the ears of some of the brilliant people in here who already know they don't know nothing and hope that the people who know everything skip this mundane conversation.
      So, to those of you who know they know nothing, how can we use open source ideas to build a government that works for all the people, all the time. I know there are many out there like Pat and I really want to hear from you, don't be afraid I don't bite and you will be rewarded, I guarantee it.
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        May 25 2013: In that light the new way is the oldest open source there is, the free market. The new way is the Libertarian way which of course is the old way. Democrats and Republicans are 2 sides of the same coin. For the Libertarians to get any traction it is going to take a bottom up effort. The odds are against it but what if... What if enough people said I will not support you anymore a real atlas shrugs what if...

        This was interesting 19 tough questions asked about Libertarians by Jon Stewart

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          May 26 2013: Very cleaver man... smarter than the average bear
          OK so that is one of the major problems there are many more, do you concur Professor Gilbert?
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        May 26 2013: It has been made to appear complicated it aren't. The main problem is as the video indicates bubbles occur when force is applied to the market. (If you don't think it is force try not going along with a government demand) And that force creates the opposite effect than is intended. E.G. They say they are going to make more money available for housing this creates more home sales except it crashes because it is not voluntary the banks are forced to make the loans and it drives the prices up to an unsustainable level and pop. Same with education, healthcare, the bond market, military spending, government employees, public transfers to the "poor", public transfers to the finance sector. The touch stone on all of this stuff is it real value? which means is it at a price someone would pay for it. Is a college education really worth what they charge? or healthcare? or a public service? or are treasury bonds really worth almost 0% interest? These are all created by by government coercion.

        As indicated in one of this guys videos educating the public is a real ditch digger of a job. It could be done but the politician that does it risks his job but the one who doesn't, Bush & Obama & everyone since we went off of the gold standard, risk the world. The funny thing is the free market left to it's own devises is self healing in remarkable time. You just have to get people to Look. The epistemology on this stuff goes back to about 100 years ago when psychology started taking over along with Woodrow Wilson and the Federal Reserve Central Bank, Edward Bernays (who the communist countries credit with every thing they know about manipulating people) In other words the whole deal is a manufactured dystopian state. Have you ever noticed how in TV shows the public servant is always shown as beyond reproach and the private sector worker is shown to be a derelict? A small example of the water we swim in.

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