shishir gupta

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When Ted Members conduct an act of replying or commenting, is that process a real creative product?

When Ted Members conduct an act of replying or commenting- Is that process a real creative, having the purest Thought, with no expectation or consideration of the reader?

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    May 22 2013: Hello Shishir!
    I can only speak for myself when I say that I have no expectations, and am open to the possibilities of how a discussion unfolds. I try to be as considerate of the reader as possible, and that sometimes is the "creative" piece for me, because the TED community seems to be a good cross-section of people from different parts of our world, many for whom english is not the first language. There are also many different communication styles, and people have different reasons for participating on this forum.

    All that being said, it feels important for me to consider the reader, and how I am expressing what I am trying to express. As a reader who is genuinely trying to understand, I sometimes ask a person to clarify their meaning.

    I LOVE communication, and am usually focusing on commonalities, because I believe that is how we can build connections with each other. When there is a genuine connection, we (humans) can often disagree with more kindness and respect, or agree to disagree:>)
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    May 22 2013: In life everything we do is a signature of our own personal behaviour. If posts are made in, as you have suggested Shishir, with no thought to grammer or spelling to thereby become more pure, this says something about the individual. To me, a reply or a comment, is telling a story. For example most people would know the story, "Little Red Riding Hood" imagine as you are being read the story and looking at the pictures, "3 Blind Mice" appear being chased by a woman with a carving knife and then on the next page there was another wolf who was trying to blow down a pigs house made of straw! The point I am making is that in order for a story to flow, there needs to be less distractions and disturbances to the readers thought processes so that they can focus on, comprehend and understand better and more easily what has been said.
    In relation to the topic, yes, all replies or commentry are creative and in fact you will also find that the writers are comparative to the community a very small percentage. From memory it is about 3%, eg if TED Community has 150,000 members, 4,500 would be posting only, the rest are readers!
    To blurt something out and give it life, especially in terms of internet posts, which are FOREVER (basically), is to me somewhat reckless. If you constantly say what you think without thought, then you invariably will insult, demean, belittle or offend many people, no matter how pure one may think the thought to be.
    If you offend your audience enough, soon enough you won't have one. People read to be entertained, mentally stimulated, to learn and a host of other reasons. As a writer, one would expect to do these sorts of things for their audience which also includes other writers who are also readers. Also a reader can at any time become a writer.
    Finally consider that all university submissions by students are generally put through a plagiarism filter which I'd imagine would also analyse posts here to determine if original thought had been used! :D
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    May 22 2013: Birth of a real creative product.

    I can not say every act by TED members is a creative product or not but i am 100% sure TED is one platform where this can happen and can happen often.
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    Jun 21 2013: I'm not sure what pure thought would be. I think communication gives meaning to creative efforts, and creativity without meaning hardly makes any sense. To what degree we're creative when we comment probably varies, but I'm sure we're all synthesizing and we all do it differently. The communal end product is a unique creation.
  • May 22 2013: Shishir,
    Personally, I react instinctively. When asked a thoughtful question, I will give a thoughtful answer. Whether it's creative or not, I don't know. I am a creative person, but I don't know if all my replies or comments are creative in the same sense.

    In regard to "no expectation or consideration of the reader": I have no expectations, except perhaps a cordial reply. I have enormous consideration, which is why I take the effort and time to reply in the first place.
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      May 22 2013: are you living in a life in which subconsciously you want to be socially recognized? or your 20+ ted score subconsciously forces you to give a second thought to your primary thought.
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      May 22 2013: sorry if i am sounding offensive, but for me the creative thought is one in which you dont even have to give it a cognitive consideration even of grammar or spelling mistakes.... that surely will be rubbish but will be there as it was born.
      • May 22 2013: Hi Shishir,
        I'm not offended at all! This is all about clarity!

        In answer to your fist question: I don't think my score has any affect whatsoever on how much thought I put into my comments - I still react instinctively, certainly not in an effort to raise it.

        In your second comment, I understand a bit better what you're getting at. You are talking about a raw, creative, abstract thought, which is perhaps not refined. That would be a collection of words, emotions, ideas, all jumbled up. I agree, it would be difficult to make sense out of a purely instinctive comment.
        If I were to write my above reply using only abstract thoughts, it might look something like this:

        no offense
        clarity
        instinct thinking
        don't care about score, just ideas

        But even this is cognitive...

        Of course we need to refine our abstract thoughts to make ourselves understandable, so some refining is required. Whether that can be seen as the creative product you're talking about, I don't know.

        Could it be, that the brain sees, interprets and translates our abstract thoughts so quickly, we don't have time to stop it from refining?
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          May 22 2013: Kudos to you, you got my abstract thought right,- Beautiful.

          The explanation offered is elaborative but i was escaping the trouble of refining it.

          Talking about my own experience, there are times when my refining speeds lags behind my thought bombarding processes and eventually i am so drawn in to the present beauty of every single thought that i literally prefer to escape the botheration of refining them.

          i guess its just me.
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          May 22 2013: Why not thinkers should outsource the zeal of doing something to the doers.. ?

          I am always a firm believer of "a person should only do what he is good at".
          But the current situations to survive suggests that one must act upon what you have thought.
          Now that is true, if one has thought something great then it has to be brought to life.
          But if a person is a cool thinker then he must think only coz thinking and acting are two different acts and thoughts come in a free mind and without an appointment.

          My only suggestion is that TED or some other big organisation should also consider pure thoughts/ideas and these ideas at there should be a platform, a platform where doers can offer there efforts and expertise in that field to bring it to the shape.
          and let the person just think!!!

          would be a Wonderful world.... for me at least.
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    May 22 2013: Thanks lamar, But i am still confused with your last line, which could be framed as- the level of creativity depends on the perception of the audience ? i doubt it .
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    May 22 2013: Are you suggesting that work is really creative only if no thought is given to how it might be received by an audience or how useful it might be to others? The most common criteria for something to be called creative are quite different- that it is novel and adaptive.
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      May 22 2013: for me " that work is really creative only if no thought is given to how it might be received by an audience or how useful it might be to others " is true.... according to me that is creative product, ... to rethink on your second line - give me an answer, who has the authority to name a product NOVEL or CREATIVE and who has not?
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        May 22 2013: You are free to consider anything you like novel or adaptive. Others who are more familiar with the range of work of your type may not consider it novel,. In some cases there would be a broad consensus that an idea or piece of work is novel and adaptive.

        For example, a person may never have read or heard of a prose piece in the "stream of comsciousness" style. He may write one and believe the entire idea of it is novel. It is novel for him, in the sense that he has never heard of such a thing, but in the big picture, it may not be what others would consider imaginative or novel.

        Some people make a distinction between "Big C" creativity and "little c" creativity. Picasso's Guernica or Dante's Divine Comedy would fall in the Big C categpry. Einstein's theory of relativity would as well in the sense that those familiar with the range of work in those disciplines would consider that work break-through work.

        The dish you fix from scratch for supper or the flower arrangement on the table would be "little c."

        But I wouldn't call Picasso's Guernica less a creative masterwork because it was intended to communicate to its viewers.
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      May 22 2013: but for me the creative thought is one in which you dont even have to give it a cognitive consideration even of grammar or spelling mistakes.... that surely will be rubbish but will be there as it was born.