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Gerald O'brian


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Evolution: "just a theory". Scientific caution is sometimes confusing.

The fact that our best available theories are still speculations misleads some people to believe that these ideas are not founded. Hence, some people suppose their uneducated opinion is just as bad, or as good, as the mainstream scientific hypothesis.
This trend is probably led by the way science has been taught, i e as a flawless method that offers facts about reality.
And by pre-scientific philosophy, still strong in our modern societies.

Evolution is "just a theory" the way Notre Dame is "just a pile of rocks", isn't it?



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    Jun 15 2013: ...
    An idea worth spreading, and something infinitely more awe inspiring and profound than all the childish crap the god crowd floods us with

    we are star stuff
    • Jun 15 2013: wonderful talk as always, glad you put it up!
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      Jun 15 2013: Why is it childish crap from the God crowd? Why are your beliefs more valid then theirs?
      And don't tell me that the evolution of the universe has been 100%, positively, absolutely been determined in it's origin. You have belief on how it could have happened and the childish God crowd does too.
      Beliefs are beliefs.
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        Jun 15 2013: But not all beliefs are correct or equal in terms of the evidence in support of them etc.

        If it is true, it is kind of cool that the atoms in our body are from an earlier generation of stars. Sounds like Moby.

        I'm not aware of anything much being absolutely proven. Maybe some maths but that is kind of trivial and the laws of logic seem to be a necessity.
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          Jun 15 2013: And that's the problem. Beliefs are beliefs. There is no need for evidence. Beliefs are something we hold that does not require evidence. There are many things that people believe that there is no need for evidence. The point I haven't made is that your beliefs are no more or less valid that anyone else's. You are not required to accept other beliefs and they don't have to accept yours.
          But, you say you have facts to support your beliefs. All of your beliefs or just parts of some. The strange part of that anomaly is others will have facts to support some of their beliefs.
          Isn't life wonderful?
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      Jun 15 2013: Careful about characterizing anything as: ". . . Childish god Crap!" Real people are very much invested in that " . . . Childish God Crap!" just as you might be in your "Ridiculous, childish & amoral Atheistic/Agnostic thinking!" I am not taking sides here. Because my issue has to do with mutual respect of people for one another.

      I believe that people can and should believe what they want. I also believe that we should respect those differences. I've been in lots of places where no one wanted to hear about my Faith or anyone's Faith. I've also been in places where THAT (Faith) is all that mattered, and nothing else. I may be unique in that respect. But the people who disagree the most on these issues -- are also the same ones who haven't done much by way of traveling. And by that I mean either physically or mentally "traveling." Traveling means going places you've never been before, either physically or mentally. They just haven't been to the same places I have been.

      Mostly, hard statements like that tell me that people are not listening to one another. And there is the core issue. Ancient wisdom is real. Here is an example. Social Psychology is a true Scientific discipline. They use the same experimental methodology as Physicists or Chemists. They test to the same degree of rigor. Only now is Social Psychology, in the studies of 'reciprocity', sustaining in Science what Jesus taught (about 'reciprocity'). None of the studies cite "Jesus" as an academic authority on 'reciprocity' - but his early work on the subject is worth a measure of academic review and respect. People who listen have a chance of hearing that. People who don't or won't listen - will never get it; EITHER science or religion either one!

      If you don't believe that this can happen, look up "Gregor Mendel" on Wikipedia. He was an Augustinian Friar who is considered the Father of Modern Genetics (Modern Genetics includes DNA etc. THAT is Science!). He was a Catholic Father 1st

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