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Is equality feasible and is it worth achieving? Subquestion: By your definitions, is equality synonymous with fairness?

This is an idea I recently fell upon while thinking about colleges and scholarships. I was wondering why I've been told (not actually witnessed) that minorities get a better chance of getting in college for being a minority. This was apparently an attempt to level the playing field and make things for equal for applicants. I realized that in their attempt to equalize the playing field, they made it unfair. What are your thoughts on this situation and any other equality situation? Do you think people should be going for fairness or equality, both, or are they essentially the same thing?


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  • May 24 2013: Kai Demandante 0
    35 minutes ago: Theory of Knowledge. IB Diploma Years

    You challenge--I'm guessing, because you offer nothing of value, other than IB diploma years, I'm guessing in defense of Ben and Blade and others. Is that supposed to be worth something? If you're trying to defend their honor, ya got a long way ta go, because like you, they can't defend their challenges. I can't even say yours is a challenge, because its so vague.

    I'm looking for someone that can actually debate science. Too bad teaching in this country caters to copy and paste and none here can offer intelligent debate, unless,--- you think you can. I've searched for years online and not found one person that can get past their original copy and paste of a subject.

    No one can fault you, its just the way things are. The school system teaches cubicle smarts and nothing more. Don't make challenges you can't keep.
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      May 24 2013: I was commenting on your comment where you said 'no one teaches you how to think' or something like that. And in TOK we debate all the time. Please give us some topic to debate instead of simply saying everyone sucks at debating while you offer no evidence that we do or that you are a good debater.
      • May 24 2013: Lets debate gravitational lensing, please. What is the TOK, please? Can you defend gravitational lensing or at least play the devils advocate, if you don't believe it is correct? Have you debated it before and do you believe such?
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          May 24 2013: Curious............and the point to doing that would be?

          To stroke ones/sombodies ego perchance ?

          And then, next, maybe we could debate how many angels will fit on the head of a pin??
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          May 24 2013: TOK is Theory of Knowledge. Seems gravitation lensing isn't much of a debate. It's been observed, and the General Theory of Relativity predicts that it happens. Science is much harder to actually debate, since it's objective and often empirically proven. That's why debates are mainly on more vague and broad ideas and human nature, which are very subjective.

          Also, let's not do any more of this debating on this conversation unless it actually pertains to this conversation. I'm sorry for encouraging this by responding to your comments.
      • May 24 2013: I knew virtually nothing of gravitational lensing about a year ago. I was challenged on the subject and like everything else I don't know, I read and read and look for all the things that are not spoken of and then I look up all those things.

        It is never about just what is said, but just as much, what is not said.
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          May 29 2013: I'd rather debate the Holocaust and Mr. Ryan's opinion on the Justice or Injustice of Genocide. Was the Holocaust undertaken to ensure that things developed in Nazi Germany in a way that was MORE fair and Equal to all the non-Jewish Germans?

          And how did killing six million Jews make ANYTHING better in Germany or anywhere else for that matter?
      • May 24 2013: Lol, that's quite some debating style there Kai.
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      May 24 2013: Well Jim, I don't recall giving you a 'challenge', as I recall, I asked you a/some questions and for you to re-brand them as 'challenges' or regarding my questions as 'challenges', I suggest is a insecure misguided assumption on your behalf.

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      May 24 2013: So Jim Ryan if this is your fetish.......................'I'm looking for someone that can actually debate science.'

      Begs the question: Why are you on this forum?

      Suggest you have lost your way somewhat and should be seeking your solace on a Science discussion forum.

      • May 25 2013: Y'all have more excuses for not debating, than morris the cat and his 9 lives. Y'all can only hate learning and love your pride, than admitting you don't have a clue and don't want one. That's what people with a copy and past schooling have to offer.

        First, go cry on your mommies shoulders and then go tell Ted. Ted will protect you from your copy and paste education.

        Gauleee,---shazaam, there are many threads on Ted, about science. Imagine that!!!

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