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Vaneesh Mittal

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Should males be treated as superior to female counterparts, in any sphere of life? Why or why not?

While the world is trying hard for women empowerment, there exist large disparities in many countries.... physically, mentally and socially !!! so the topic is fit and open for debate

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    May 15 2013: I am very uncomfortable with the idea of superiority. Males and females are physiologically different. All else is our creation.
  • May 14 2013: Males and Females will all live happily ever after as soon as equality happens. It would be a good starting point for you to spend all day tomorrow acknowledging your equality to every female you encounter. Life is more true and more fun with equals. The inequality between Females and Males has caused unhappiness, deception, poverty, ill health, and many other unwanted consequences. Only truth works. The truth is males and females are EQUAL and DIFFERENT. You may happen to notice that in countries where women are more empowered, there is greater prosperity, health and happiness for all citizens, e.g., northern Europe.
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    May 15 2013: Vaneesh if you can define superiority than i can give your answer.

    Can You define superiority?
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      May 19 2013: Hi Adesh !!! Superiority being a quality need to be defined but may be understood as a relative term..... something/someone can be superior only in context of something/ relative to something. In itself nothing is superior. Gold is superior to brass in some context but brass is superior to gold in some other context. At the same time, when gold and brass are mutually exclusive... in the case of males and females their existence is mutually dependent!!! Man cannot be without woman and vice-versa.....
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    May 15 2013: no never, don't forget that a male takes birth from a women only..then why we should discriminate with a women...she never discriminated in giving birth to you...so why?? Both women and men should be given equal oppurtunities
  • May 15 2013: For me, the key part of your question are the words "be treated as."

    We should treat everything and everyone, and every group, AS what or who they are.

    So males should be treated as superior to females only in situations when males are superior to females.

    Males, as a group, in general, are definitely superior to females in two specific ways, muscle strength and production of sperm. As groups, we do treat males as superior to females in athletic events where muscle strength is a factor, by having males and females compete separately. We do not expect females to produce sperm.

    So, I think that covers it. In all other ways, we should not treat males as superior to females, because males are not superior.
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      May 15 2013: Barry, You do have an appreciable "clarity of your thoughts"
    • May 15 2013: Hi Barry!
      Good point - didn't someone once say, we should treat others how we want to be treated...?

      I don't know if I agree with you, though, that "Males, as a group, in general, are definitely superior to females in two specific ways, muscle strength and production of sperm." By that same argument, wouldn't women be considered superior for their more natural ability to communicate, and production of eggs? Are men and women not simply mutually superior?
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      May 15 2013: Women, in groups are superior to men in two specific ways, tenacity and consistency. Find a job that requires many trials before hitting success and employ males and females in groups to do the job. My experience says, women will beat men hands down.Similarly find a job that requires hugely repetitive actions (like assembly lines of clothes/garments factory) and my experience says that women will beat men hands down.
      It doesn't necessarily have to be sperms and eggs.
      • May 16 2013: Ugh, I would be awful at a job like that, Pabitra.
        Generally speaking, I'm sure you're right, and there are probably statistics to back it up too.
        I went through a bunch of websites the other day, each claiming to know why men do certain things better than women, and vice versa, and all of them different. They all are dependent on so many internal and external factors that make up personality, character, left or right brained skill, etc...
        i think it really does boil down to the biological differences.
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    May 15 2013: I'm going to state the obvious, and want to illustrate that ignoring differences is just that: ignorance

    Women are superior in giving birth to children.
    Men are superior in a range of sports.
    Men are superior in excretion of testosterone

    And you can say that for any group that has shown differences (age, race, religion, culture,...)

    So... Yes we are all different, and in groups, average differences appear.

    So the question is: should a person be treated as superior because a group has average differences?
    NO: You shall not make the fallacy of distributing an aspect of the group (equally) to all its members.

    A person should be treated as superior if he is superior in the aspect you are comparing him/her.

    There is absolutely nothing wrong with stereotypes, group differences, comparisons, marketing division or grouping people into categories.
    There is however something wrong to assume that the differences between groups says something about the differences within the groups.
    And it is wrong to assume that if you are superior in one aspect, you are superior in other aspects.

    Almost all men are superior in urinating against trees than almost all women and therefore we get special latrines. I consider that as a superior treatment ;-) .
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      May 15 2013: Good analysis Christophe! But yet, in general don't we find men flaunting their superiority over women ... and women too try to prove the same by nature or by centuries of adaption to various social circumstances.....Well, not that I promote male superiority but that this is what i observed in the society at large

      Well my wife is much better cook than myself, she handles home and kids with perfection and as you said there exist areas of work where I excel and she doesn't....!!!! So I agree with you on what you said......"A person should be treated as superior if he is superior in the aspect you are comparing him/her."
    • May 16 2013: Well put, Christophe!
      I especially like how you illustrate that being superior doesn't have to be something to flaunt.
      Another woman may have larger breasts than me, but not be successful in breastfeeding... I would never suggest I was then in any way superior, even though my achievement may well be...
  • May 15 2013: Wow, this is a venturesome topic, Vaneesh! Curious what will emerge...!

    My thoughts? Absolutely not, no way, N-O.

    No one person is superior to another, in any way.
    Should I consider myself superior because I posses the 'hardware' to reproduce? No. It would all be worthless without the male contribution.
    Should anyone consider themselves superior because of the biological differences that make us masculine or feminine? Of course not. No one can control those differences, no one did anything spectacular to get them.

    We are born a certain gender, with the sole purpose of reproduction. Our differences are too various, and too dependent on external factors, to constitute that one gender is superior to another.

    9 'Big Differences Between Men and Women':
    http://thevioletroom.wordpress.com/2011/04/20/10-big-differences-between-mens-and-womens-brains/

    The notion of superiority itself needs to be banished, once and for all. The need to be superior suggests insecurity.
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    May 15 2013: I admire you for posing the question.

    I have worked in and around law enforcement since 1986 and I have worked with various people of various genders who were great; and others who weren't. Personality, not gender was the issue. I have also seen women degraded and disrespected for just being female - not good and not fair.

    Is one more superior than the other - NO!, NO!, NO! For me, they are the SAME but DIFFERENT.

    People, regardless of gender, race, and so on should be treated the same, always and forever.
  • May 15 2013: Men usually make better men than do women . The same is true for women. But let's don't discrimate except noticing there are gender differences.
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    May 15 2013: G'day Vaneesh

    Are women inferior to men period? No but both sexes have their place in society, is giving birth inferior? I would like to see these blokes who think woman are inferior give birth & bring up the kids, I could imagine the outcry now.

    Love
    Mathew
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    May 19 2013: In it self nothing is superior.


    We are the one's who assign this adjective to qualities .
  • May 19 2013: You couldn't define the superiority without referring to what aspects of life are compared. As many of the previous comments already explained that women are superior in nurturing of children. They live longer. They are more capable of maintaining a household. They are also superior in singing and dancing.
    Let me also speculate what could be cause of the evolution or natural selection of the females and the males of the world. The nature selected women as the child-bearers as an incontrovertible fact. Then who would be the logical choice for the nursing and nurturing of the children? Of course it's the women! For that purpose, women were made more tender and delicate, their skin and stature are smaller and finer, even their voices are closer to that of the children, which make them more intimate and approachable by the young children. So men simply are hardly competitive with women in the "job" of child nurturing and caring of the children. Because of the "job responsibility", women have to sacrifice their brutal strength as well as the size in stature. As far as intelligence is concerned, I doubt that any incontrovertible result could be made.
    That's really the adaptation by either gender for their strengths rather than the comparison or the competition. As a half joke of a speculation, the reason (not necessarily wrong) that women live longer is because if the wife dies prematurely, even the old grandmother is still the better carer of the children than their father!
    So the comparison of the "superiority" of men and women is simply nonsense. For instance, which is superior between a dog and a cat? Or between a cow and a sheep?
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    May 19 2013: .
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    Should not!

    "....
    a. Husband
    The husband half is biologically assigned in charge of food-seeking, habitat constructing, defending, donating all kinds of co-body-safety messages ceaselessly to his wife (kissing, embracing, and so on) .
    His ability and smartness come mainly from the ceaseless intimate encouragement of the other half of the marriage ---- the wife.
    b. Wife
    The wife is biologically assigned in charge of the child bearing, child bring up, house hold, and etc.
    She transfers all the physical substantial materials from her own body into the baby’s. Also, she exhausts all her spiritual energy to bring up the baby or child ---- the DNA-carrier of both the husband and wife.
    That is where her mother-greatness and beauty come from.
    Her beauty and virtue are support-enhanced by the ceaseless intimate co-body message from the other half of the marriage ---- the husband.
    ...."

    (Fr. Be Happy Validly, p. 21)
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    May 18 2013: what an interesting thought,and way of wording a question..superior,meaning better,or more respected,or advantaged,or relevant,or useful,or meaningful,or better,or of more value,or valuable,or precious,or deserving,or delicate,bigger,ect to infinity. I would give you challenge that to force a measure of value on two parts of a relationship that is primal or essential or fundamental is a result of a form of distraction within the nature of relationships between two nessessary halves of one relationship. The question is not who is superior but what is essential and worthy of each half. Your road will only lead to division and discontent to how much men are superior,when the other path leads to worship and gratitude....Remeber there are all types of men who are willing to think they are superior to another man because of wealth size strength,race,age,speed...so remeber the road you are on will lead to this road...your choice!
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    May 16 2013: No, because males are not superior, nor are females superior. We are all PEOPLE, with different talents, skills, strength and weaknesses....more the same than different.
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    May 15 2013: Yes. Drinking and playing chess.
    • May 19 2013: I hope that you can declare your "superiority" when you could challenge some of the world woman chess champions, and win.
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    May 15 2013: definitely. i want benefits for being a male. also for being european. hungarian. white. adult. i want to feel special for all of these, so i don't have to prove myself worthy. i was born worthy.
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      May 15 2013: exactly what would set you different or superior to a "european. hungarian. white. adult. FEMALE" e.g your mother or your sister, or your wife or your daughter???
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        May 15 2013: asking that question defeats the purpose. i want to feel special without having to find reasons for it.
        • May 16 2013: I understand what you mean, Krisztian. We need to watch out that we don't discriminate ourselves for being who we are, just because we fit into a certain category, whatever that may be.