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Does creationism indicate bad education? (If so how can we fix this, and should it be taught?) Does Creationism have any credibility to it?

I started this debate, with a new aspect (or perspective) on our current education problem. Considering many focus on how to motivate students and various other aspects. Yet this (creationism) still remains a big problem to the American education system today, and I don't think many people think about this when they consider the education system today.

I feel I should have probably made this clearer, when I say creationism, I am making reference to the type of creationism which tell people "Evolution is wrong". (Or in other words the "Creationism vs Evolution" debate).

Creationism - http://www.creationism.org/
Does it have any credibility to it? Should it be considered a science?
Considering due to recent polls 46% of American believe in creationism.
Link :
- http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/05/americans-believe-in-creationism_n_1571127.html

Many psychological studies have shown a strong correlation between a lack of education and creationism. These studies indicate that not many creationists actually understand what the scientific method is.
With all this talk of how to "improve education" surely it would be wise, to finally finish the "Creationism vs Evolution" debate, if we wish to ensure a better scientific education!
Watch this 3 minute link : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTedvV6oZjo (By Lawrence Krauss)

Here are some reasons, people believe creationism should be taught in schools, which I believe are false :
Considering, if the polls are to be believed, 46% of Americans are missing out (in my opinion) on a proper scientific education.

I think it is worth mentioning though, that I am fine with "Theistic evolution".
A good book recommendation on this matter is "Finding Darwin's God: A Scientist's Search for Common Ground Between God and Evolution" by Kenneth R. Miller. I personally have never understood the claim "Atheism = Evolution"...


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  • Jun 4 2013: Entropy Driven,

    FYI--I finally saw and replied to your May 18 response to me. My response is buried after it somewhere down this chain.

    Best wishes,
    • Jun 5 2013: Hi Cliff,

      I think that the problem of "the spiritual" are more basic than those addressed by science. Science can tell us about the possibility that some believed gods are true or false by falsifying claims about what these gods are supposed to have done in our reality. Example, if a believed god is supposed to have created the world about 6000 years ago, then science has proven that god false. But essentially, I think that the problems with gods and the "immaterial" are much more basic, and thus belong in the philosophical. In other words, it is not whether science is forbidden of making any claims, it is more that science is about testability, and gods are imagined often in ways that try to protect them from such testability. Yet, philosophy, for example logic, has "access" to those claims.

      See ya.

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