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A contradiction within itself-New Age Spirituality

I’m back from a two week holiday in the sticks & I’m causing trouble already!!

Is New age spirituality a contradiction within itself when it judges judgment & the ego as being bad, judgment is bad because it’s of being judgmental & the ego is judged as being bad because it’s of desires according to new age spiritualists.

Isn’t judging being judgmental a judgement therefore bad within itself & to judge the ego as being bad isn’t that being judgemental? So are new age spiritualists actually manifesting the so called bad of the world? You have got to wonder because before they became spiritually aware they didn’t have a problem with egos & judgment & a multitude of other things.

Take the following quote that was recently presented on an internet site “The problem is not enjoyment; the problem is attachment”, enjoyment usually represents attachments of some kind as an emotional human being can’t attach itself usually to something that isn’t enjoyable in some way, this would psychologically be impossible.

I could go on with this but the question is, is new age spirituality a contradiction within itself & is it manifesting/adding to the problems in the world?

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    May 10 2013: un, good question, but matthew don't you ever concern yourself with real-world problems?
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      May 10 2013: G'day Greg

      Good question Greg, yes I do & this is one of them believe it or not.

      The dark ages where built up on falsities, deception & most of all contradictions, what is the difference between spirituality of the dark ages & this new age spirituality? Both are contradictory, at times, within their concepts, the people before the dark ages ignored the signs & look at what happened not saying it could happen again but!!

      For another example, this is synchronicity for you, I was told last night of a young girl who had certain problems one was with crowds, this young lass wanted to go into a pageant. To cut a long story short she succeeded at losing here fear of crowds but most of all performing in front of crowds.

      A lot of new age spiritualists look at the ego as being negative but look at egotism in utter distaste with no apparent positive attributes. The story above shows what not just the ego but egotism can positively do for people living in fear. I have been on numerous spiritual forums & not once have I heard a new age spiritualist say that egotism can be positive & in actual fact quite the opposite. This demonising certain things is an awfully strange spiritual concept!!

      New age spirituality is scary stuff & negative within itself which isn't that much different to the dark ages where they also looked at everything not of their faith & teachings as being negative in some way.


      Love
      mathew
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        May 16 2013: Yeah, I'm having trouble reading this, Matthew. But I apologize for my original comment, it was rude and out of line, of course you concern yourself with real-world problems. But I am wondering who you are in the practical world, for example do you work, what line of work do you do? How strong are you on more "physical" activities, for example do you play sports, or walk, or....?
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          May 16 2013: G'day Greg

          Not at all Greg & I didn't take it that way, I too can be a little to rough around the edges at times & have to apologize for my indiscretion.

          I'm a semi-retired carpenter/joiner who is now at this time on a disability pension because of certain injuries obtained over the years; life does have a habit in catching up with you.

          I'm not a small bloke probably for the main reason that I was self-employed in my own trade for some time. I love camping, bush walking, kayaking, bird watching the feathered variety at times & now writing which is normally about science/psychology & spirituality.

          If you want to know how strong I am altogether, I had a serious fall when I was 6 yrs old & fully dislocated my right elbow, this was never put back in place believe it or not which of course most people don't but living out in the bush you have to put up with certain things & this coupled with obvious neglect & abuse makes me who I am today. It's amazing what one can do with an injury like mine when you show a little grit, I've performed in work other fully able people were unable to do & latter on down the track while tutoring other people with various disabilities all these experiences paid off big time.

          You could say I'm full of grit & determination which I might not have had if it wasn't for my experiences but of course one has to live through them to benefit, many sadly don't.

          Love
          Mathew
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          May 16 2013: G'day Kate

          Same here.

          I have a lot of passion, grit & determination, it is unreal how one can turn a so called negative into a positive, your a little that way Kate!!
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        May 17 2013: Would you say you had to learn how to camp, Mat? Or did you just teach yourself? Do any TED conversations come to your mind that involve kayaking, bush walking, etc? I'd enjoy those, it might mix it up a little from the spiritual topics.
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        May 19 2013: out of curiosity, Mat, do you write anywhere but TED about spirituality or psychology?

        Yes, one thing I value in my day is variety, I always try to put some variety in there.

        Yes, I probably don't care too much about spirituality, at least it's not my main focus. Probably I'm more interested in things in the physical world, I probably think if you can get life right in the very concrete, physical way, the spirituality will take care of itself.
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          May 19 2013: G'day Greg

          On my blog of course but various other spiritual forum sites & a noetic site.

          I tried to recently post a topic on Ted about insanity but it wasn't accepted which is sort of understandable because it might have brought up unconscious issues in others adversely.

          Yes I agree with you that if you get life right in the very concrete physical world spirituality will take care of itself & the reason for that is the whole of life itself is spiritual. I'm not your typical spiritually aware person who only sees spirituality in what makes me feel good as true spirituality isn't just about desires but about life itself so yes I would agree with you fully.

          I can't talk about what I don't know or talk about the things I don't want to talk about like the economy or politics for instance, there's enough doing that now on TED. My main interest or interests period are limited unlike yours obviously are Greg so I'm sorry my topics are also going to be limited.

          Love
          Mathew

          PS Believe it or not I have had some of my writings published in a metaphysics mag in the US so I must be doing something right.
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        May 21 2013: Somehow forgive me, Mat, I slightly want to nudge you toward the physical world. Here's a question I have: When I was a kid, my parents pointed out to me how important your blood is, it is your blood that takes the nourishment from your food and carries it all around your body so that all your cells can eat and continue living. Now, at age 53, I believe I can feel that process happening, I believe I can feel the cells of my body eating from my blood, the cells in my arms, cells in my neck, cells all over my body. But I'm the only person I've met who says they can feel that. I wonder, can you feel your body eating the nourishment from your blood, or have you ever met anyone else who says they can feel that?
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          May 21 2013: G'day Greg

          No not personally Greg but this obviously says your very much in touch with your physical self which is great.

          Not too many people would admit such things as they probably would think it would make them seem lame in some way, shallowness.

          Love
          Mathew
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        May 16 2013: Ouch. Yeah, I apologized to Matthew above. Well, I think of myself as interested in real-world activities, for example, I gather you enjoyed my exercise video? (Thanks for watching.)
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          May 16 2013: G'day Greg

          It looks like I've collected a few adversaries which is normal for someone who speaks their own mind, every time someone has ago at me they end a up with multiple likes which sadly shows how small minded they are.

          To be an adversary of anyone is to have a small mind as it's only small minded people who think of such things. I don't have a small mind but I do have a loopy one.

          Love
          Mathew
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        May 17 2013: By the way, have you ever heard the song "I'll be your mirror," by the Velvet Underground and Nico? Quite lovely.
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          May 17 2013: G’day Greg

          I see what you are coming at, too much of one thing which isn’t quite correct as my last topic was more to do with psychology, I do try to right about things I know which is science & spirituality, the science being more of the psychological side of things.

          This topic is actually having ago at certain concepts of spirituality so it’s a little different to the norm as most spiritualists & otherwise will defend their concepts & beliefs to the bitter end. I could talk about pain, abuse & neglect but that’s old hat for me plus it was spirituality & a lot of humour that got me through. I could talk about insanity which I’m seriously thinking of doing which was brought on by the pain I was in but that’s in line with psychology & the things that stopped me going completely insane was spirituality & humour, spirituality saved my life literally.

          I know to you spirituality doesn’t seem to be high on your agenda but to most people in the world it’s an important influence in their lives & is a real concern, we are still seriously causing conflicts because of our spiritual beliefs so you could say spirituality has a lot more to do with real world concerns than getting & staying fit for example, staying fit hasn’t caused too many wars that I know of however it has saved many lives.

          We all have had our own life changing experiences to one extent or another, mines just spirituality I’m afraid where’s yours might be exercise. See how our modes of thought dictate who we are & how we associate with others & what gives us our importance in life which is what I wrote about in my last topic.

          Love
          Mathew
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        May 19 2013: See if you like it, Kate, at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfhZwbMqbkE

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