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Mathew Naismith


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A contradiction within itself-New Age Spirituality

I’m back from a two week holiday in the sticks & I’m causing trouble already!!

Is New age spirituality a contradiction within itself when it judges judgment & the ego as being bad, judgment is bad because it’s of being judgmental & the ego is judged as being bad because it’s of desires according to new age spiritualists.

Isn’t judging being judgmental a judgement therefore bad within itself & to judge the ego as being bad isn’t that being judgemental? So are new age spiritualists actually manifesting the so called bad of the world? You have got to wonder because before they became spiritually aware they didn’t have a problem with egos & judgment & a multitude of other things.

Take the following quote that was recently presented on an internet site “The problem is not enjoyment; the problem is attachment”, enjoyment usually represents attachments of some kind as an emotional human being can’t attach itself usually to something that isn’t enjoyable in some way, this would psychologically be impossible.

I could go on with this but the question is, is new age spirituality a contradiction within itself & is it manifesting/adding to the problems in the world?


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    May 10 2013: Hi Mathew!!! Long time no see.

    Your opening remarks reminded me of this poem by Shel Silverstein:

    I asked the zebra,
    Are you black with white stripes?
    Or white with black stripes?
    And the zebra asked me,
    Are you good with bad habits?
    Or are you bad with good habits?
    Are you noisy with quiet times?
    Or quite with noisy times?
    Are you happy with some sad days?
    Or are you sad with some happy days?
    Are you neat with some sloppy ways?
    Or are you sloppy with some neat ways?
    And on and on and on and on
    And on and on he went.
    I'll never ask a zebra
    About stripes

    I have no idea what the answer to your question is. I hope the contributors to your conversation help you find an answer.
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      May 10 2013: G’day Mary

      Yes, I’ve been on holiday for a couple of weeks, love camping, just thought I would come back & cause a little more trouble which some people have taken literally by the seems of it but I do deserve what I get…wellll most of the times!!!!!!

      This is a good one Mary & so appropriate. I have found tooooo many spiritually aware people who call themselves new age spiritualists finding conflicts with everything including negative words that should never be spoken probably like the word trouble. I’m trying to point out they are causing themselves unnecessary conflicts & trouble when all they need to do is accept the black & white stripes to find true awareness & enlightenment if that is what they desire.

      Don’t get me wrong Mary I think new age spirituality can be quite beneficial but it seems so fake & untrue to itself to me in a lot of ways at present but of course that’s just me.

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        May 10 2013: I have not figured out whether new age spiritualism is one belief system or many under an "umbrella" term. I have noticed the judgmental aspect in some followers as well as every appearance of having an outsized ego at the same time as professing a belief in having no ego. I have also seen an expressed belief in empathy alongside actual mean behaviors.

        But this says little to me about what new age spirituality is actually supposed to mean- only the contradictory attributes of some who identify themselves with that belief system.
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          May 10 2013: G'day Fritzie

          What is new age spirituality supposed to mean? I thought it was acceptance of all unlike the older types of religious concepts of spirituality which was dictated by doctrines that anyone could read in whatever they wanted too as long as it was in the name of the lord, I would like to think this new age spirituality was past these corruptive concept of manipulations but I’m not so sure as one can read into this new age spirituality what they like in the name of whatever they choose.

          An actual spiritualist to me would be one who doesn’t judge at all including he’s or hers ego thus non-conflictive but so many new age spiritualists call themselves spiritualists before they have stopped judging which isn’t quite right. I’m just a spiritually aware person myself but I seem to have a little more acceptance of things like the ego & judgment than most thus I seem less conflictive unless I’m trying to make a point like here.

          It would be utterly impossible for every human being to become a spiritualist & we shouldn’t expect them & ourselves too, conscious change or not in my mind anyway.

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          May 10 2013: Matthew said: "An actual spiritualist to me would be one who doesn’t judge at all..."

          I think the operative word is actually 'self'-control'.

          We all label, we all judge. Anybody who says they do not label and judge is a ______ (you can fill in the blank)

          However, a person who has reflected and meditated on the negative outcomes of labeling and judging, stops himself or herself from voicing their judgements and outright labeling people........they kind of have a mastery over themselves, and when these tendencies creep in they kind of shake it off.

          Think of grocery shopping.....you know not everything in the supermarket is healthy to eat.
          Your mind, based on knowledge of nutrition, distinguishes between healthy food, and unhealthy food........you label the foods.......Other people, not so much. They just see it as food. They don't label anything....it's all good, taste good, makes you feel good, fills you up when you're hungry, if it was bad for you the government wouldn't allow it to be sold, etc....etc.....

          So labeling, is sometimes a good thing.....it just depends on your perspective, your insight, your knowledge.

          As far as New Age mumbo jumbo.....meh.

          I like what Colleen said......lots of ideas are labeled "New".....but it's the same wisdom that has been going around for ages.

          I like what the Bible says: "There is nothing new under the sun" (Wise King Solomon)

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