peter lindsay

Physics Teacher,


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What was Jack Ruby's motive?

I've watched and read endless material about whether there was a second gunman or a government conspiracy or just a lone nutter. What I am yet to hear is a reason for Jack Ruby to shoot Oswald. To me that's the big mystery of the whole situation.

  • May 4 2013: George.
    " No one can keep a secret this long."

    Are you kidding me?
    We are still discovering secrets from long ago.
    We have still been unearthing the truth about many things.
    It took time to learn that our government has been lying to us/US and continues to lie to us/Us and you actually believe what you wrote?

    Your government, through people like Barrack bin Obama, have recently used such phrases as, (paraphrased by me),"those who shrink or avoid disclosure, are those who have something to hide."

    Yet your government gets more secret every day. There is virtually no transparency. It is all Opaque Obama.
    And yet you believe yourself, them, especially after they have been proven to be liars, criminals, thieves and basic psychopaths.

    George, if we have been told the truth, then why does our government hide it?
    Why do we seek the truth if we have already been told it?
    Because we "know", intuitively that we have not.
    Why did our government seal everything around the JFK assassination until, what? 2031?
    For what purpose?
    And you believe this BS?

    I've had the s.......t scared out of me many, many times in my life but I couldn't change or didn't change until something different occurred. What was it?
    It was having the scared out me. I no longer believe what any lawyer, banker, politician, military personnel, any one in any authority, who speaks to the public in any kind of venue, or any one of that ilk, has to say today.

    If you do, then I think you might be so brainwashed as to not be able to reason well any more.
    You might think my position sounds crazier, but please let it sink in.

    Within each person, is a system, through which both lies and truth must pass on their journey to each person's inner core, their inner most self.
    With the amount of lies and dis-ception Americans have been subjected to, this system is a baffle system and by the time the information reaches the core, the person is baffled, as are most Americans.
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    May 3 2013: Mr. Ruby was fulfilling his end of a for-money contract to eliminate a potential, pivotally important, witness in the investigation to discover who executed JFK.
  • May 3 2013: Random - I am fairly unsuccessfully self-employed. I was under the impression that it was a direct shot at a target in a vehicle moving at a constant speed. There were many mistakes that made this possible. I remember from the Marines that there are many mediocre shots that consistently hit the bull at 500 yards. Oswald's shots were much closer than 500 yards. We are all saddened by the fact that this loser killed the President of the United States. Look we now know the name of the man who killed Trotsky. I was in Junior High when this happened. Tom Schiffer was a beginning reporter. All the men in significant positions are dead or senile now. No one can keep a secret this long. This is one of those stupid things that happen. As I noted - No responsible sane person would use nuts like Oswald or Ruby as their agents.
  • May 2 2013: Peter - I never met Jack Ruby or Lee Harvey Oswald, but I did talk to Mrs. Oswald (Lee's mother) at the grocery store. The local PBS radio station was playing a recording she made while still alive late at night. She was a nice lady but certainly not normal. I really doubt the other two were either. Hearing her recording reminded me that she was a very unhappy loyal mother who never backed down, and was tolerated and respected in a weird sort of way by everyone. Oswald was apparently a radical lefty, and Ruby was very angry about the assissination of our President. What Pat says makes sense,too. Reading anything about either man suggests no intelligence agency would want to be in the saame room with either of these nuts. Oswald had an easy shot. This had never happened before. The Secret service will never make this mistake again. Ruby shooting Oswald - This would only happen in a movie written by idiots. You'll not find a conspiracy unless E.T. planned it.
    • May 2 2013: HI george.
      Who do you work for?
      Oswald did not have an easy shot. A rifle not noted for accuracy, through at least one tree to a moving car and a moving target and wind.
      why do you ignore that most people ran towards the grassy knoll because, as they all said, "that is where some of the shots came from?"

      Ruby was a pawn who killed Oswald because Oswald was innocent.

      Doesn't even take into account the bullet found was in pristine condition, something that could never have happened. To believe that is to lie to oneself intentionally or through willing ignorance. Why lie to others?

      Let's not forget the FBI admitted they had (supposedly and accidentally), reversed some of the frames from the Abraham Zapruder film that fit their story when in fact, put in the correct order and correct way, show their version is not true. A lie.

      No conspiracy? That's a lie! who do you work for? He was assassinated for Christ's sakes!
      Let's see. Assassination doesn't point to a conspiracy?

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      May 5 2013: The reason for my interest is that all the stories about Ruby being upset about JFK seem so unbeleivable. A low level mobster who runs a strip club doesn't really seem the type.
      • May 6 2013: Of course, we remember Presidents. Why else would we remember Oswald or Ruby? People act strangely. Of course, one can imagine a conspiracy - why would these manipulators of history choose two kooks? That's all I can say. Alot of people in Fort Worth, Texas, did meat Mrs. Oswald Lee's mother. I never did meet those two men who would be in a dictionary as examples of weird. Mrs. Oswald was a pleasant lady at the Piggly Wiggly a grocery store, but she was very different as a friend of mine who was a police Sgt. would describe her.
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          May 6 2013: I'm not even looking for a conspiracy, just beleivable motivation. Doing it on a dare sounds more likely than anything you read about it.
      • May 6 2013: Peter -

        I was just talking to a mentally ill friend on the telephone - It made know sense to me. My Myers-Briggs is INTJ - I look for rational reasons for things. Even history is often lacking in rational reasons. I assume you are what Keirsey describes as a Promethian as I am - As I essentially pointed out earlier. There is so much weirdness out there - A rational type murder would be like Stalin having Trotsky murdered. The killer never told his name etc. With the end of the Cold War we have been told the details.
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    May 2 2013: Peter, There is no absolute "fact" as to the role he played. Carlos Marcello had stated that he wanted Kennedy taken out and Jack was buddies with his Lts. Jack had mafa ties from the states and even some when the mafa ran casino in Cuba. He even went to Cuba prior to the shooting to visit McWillie. The Mafa did not like Kennedy as they blamed him for the failure of the Bay of Pigs Invasion and further disliked Robert Kenedy who as AG went after the mafa. By killing the president both JFK and Robert would be gone. After he shot Oswald the Mafa members visited Jack in Jail.

    He was linked to Jimmy Hoffa as a person who was to line up police officers to shoot Oswald in jail and failed to do so he then took on the job himself to shoot Oswald. In the photo Oswald did not notice or seem to recognize Ruby. The Warren Commission found it strange that Ruby was even there ... the garage was not guarded ... the doors to the basement were unlocked ... etc ....

    After Hoffa was released from prison by President Nixon three mafa members Hoffa, John Roselli, and Sam Giancana were called to testify in front of the Church Committee concerning events surrounding the Kennedy assination. Roselli and Giancana were killed and Hoff disappeared prior to being recalled to testify in 1975.

    Events names and lots of talk surround the Kennedy / Oswald / Ruby / etal events. Follow the trail of your choice.

    See ya. Bob.
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    May 2 2013: He had cancer, seems likely that he got money for his family?