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Infinity exists regardless of mankind's ability to conceptualize it.

Thought experiment:

Let's say we figuratively put everything in existence into a box. In order for that box to take shape as a 6 sided construct, we have essentially created boundaries to what is inside the box and what is outside the box.

What is outside the box is the continuation of infinity whether it be infinite solid, space or matter interspersed with space.

Infinity therefore cannot be bounded and cannot be measured. No limit exists as well as no point of origin. Infinity has always been infinite.

Now due to the universal truth that is infinity and I say that to mean that we can always trust infinity to be the quality of infinite, we can then know that infinity is a quality that can be applicable to an infinite number of qualities.

Infinitely large
Infinitely small
Infinite time
Infinite space
Infinite matter
Infinite levels of intelligence or life forms
Infinite forms of energy
On and on because infinity has room for everything.

Infinity has its concept and function in mathematics, but I think infinity proves itself to exist in the physical realm as well.

If infinity is limited, then educate me on the word that is that which is beyond infinity. If this is so, then our definition of infinity is incorrect.

Thank you

Topics: Infinity

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  • May 8 2013: Let me try two perspectives:
    1) The context by which we understand things.
    It appears that the basis for everything that we understand is in terms of comparison. How could we understand cold if there is no heat. Distance is relative to some point. All measurements are given quantity, relative values. We conceptualize infinity due to the finite things we perceive.

    Frankly from a mental state perspective - infinity is the border of insanity. We do not know how to conceptualize infinity because it defies the way we understand everything else. Suppose, we could stop measuring, analyzing, comparing and conceptualizing. We could then put ourselves in a state of "being". This may sound philosophical and it is. The first step in science is to philosophize.

    So I suggest that we shut off our current thought process, quiet the mind then enter the state of "Being". Welcome to the Infinite Universe. Oddly enough it doesn't require definition anymore. The choice is yours - accept the state of "Being", one with the Universe or pursue the thing that we can not understand and drive yourself insane.

    2) A spiritual approach.
    If there is such a thing as God I would have to ask the question, "What would be my greatest creation?" Here is my possible answer, "Self Realization". This is not a difficult concept to accept. We constantly challenge ourselves to see what we are capable of doing. Our accomplishments, capability and potential define us. It is our choice whether or not we live up to our potential. But the point is we don't know that limit. Creation can be extended by creating other things that can create also. Our nature is to create things. Interestingly we value our children over the objects we create. The creation of children extends our ability to create. And so on........
    Infinity means in this context that there may not be an end because as long as we continue to create, the Universe expands. Once the spirit dies, so does the Universe. Would that be so hard to accept?
    • May 8 2013: Hi Martin, you mentioned creation and there is a very strong connection, one way or an other, that should join Infinity with finite stuff like us.

      It is all about perspectives indeed. We often could not know what is in a picture unless a penny is included :)

      This treatise is about creation, and possibly why, just a perspective..
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      May 11 2013: Being naturally curious is a state of being. You don't have to be insane to indulge in it.

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