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From government to individuality, as a whole or as a group, how do we change for the better?

It seems that from religion to politics to star trek there's been a movement in humans to change for the better. what are the factors that promote change for the better? what are the base principles. what happens to one who doesn't change. why do some have a more difficult time then others?

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    Apr 30 2013: Give priority to the welfare and happiness of others.

    I'd like to agree with you that we have, indeed, changed for the better. And still have a long way to go.
    I often post this quote
    "We are not born for the sake of ourselves, we are born for the sake of others." ~ E. Swedenborg.

    In addition to that, regarding religions, he suggests that every religion first loves their 'higher power' and their neighbour as themselves. All differences would then just become differences of opinion.
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      May 1 2013: i agree with that. i am confused about the whole loving others before yourself kind of thing.; it seems like a really fine line between the 2. it seems paradoxical. you cant love someone more then you love yourself from what i have been told. but your expected to put others first in your life. at the same time loving your self helps others. it eventually seems to be all wrapped up into one. if you love your self or another you seem to be benefit the group as a whole. were suppose to do what we want. my mom is a great example of putting others first in her life. she at a lot of time has out gave herself. it seems.
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        May 1 2013: I agree Michael, that we really cannot honestly love (respect, have compassion, empathy, and kindness) more for others than we do for ourselves. How can we give something away, that we do not have in ourselves? Makes no sense.

        If, as Adriaan says, we should "give priority to the welfare and happiness of others", how can we, as he also says...first love "their 'higher power' and their neighbour as themselves."? If we prioritize others, we are not loving them as we love ourselves. It looks like, in that situation, we are giving something to others that we do not have for ourselves.

        I believe that we are all connected..."all wrapped up into one" as you say. That being said, it also makes sense that if we love our self and others it is beneficial to the whole:>)

        You ask..."why do some have a more difficult time then others?"
        I suggest that some folks get "stuck" in their comfort zone, and stepping out of the "box" they have created for themselves sometimes feels frightening and challenging, so they stay where they are. People also sometimes get so attached to their beliefs that they perceive the belief as part of their identity. What would they do if they changed their identity? Who would they be? How would they live the life adventure? It is sometimes frightening for some folks.
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          May 1 2013: Thanks for that insight. I was reading a talk about that. He was talking how identity effects thoughts, thoughts effect behavior, behavior effects habits and habits effect character. So on and so forth. That def can be scary stepping out of your box. Especially if your not securely rooted in a foundation that won't just crumble. Having your foundation crumble on you is no fun
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        May 1 2013: You're welcome Michael....thanks for your insight as well. I agree...identity, thoughts, behavior, habits, contribute to forming our character. True....it is beneficial to have a strong foundation.

        This goes back to what you wrote about your mom...
        "my mom is a great example of putting others first in her life. she at a lot of time has out gave herself. it seems."

        Women are often taught to give to others more than they/we give to ourselves. As a young woman, I did the same thing....gave to others to the point where I depleted my own energy. We cannot give to others if we do not keep ourselves recharged....refueled.

        Many times, the act of giving to others also serves to recharge/refuel ourselves.....sometimes not. It is important to know what and how we are giving, and it's important to be aware of our "self". If we simply make giving to others a priority, we may not be aware of depleting ourselves. We need a good foundation of awareness to find the balance.
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          May 2 2013: "Are you now saying, NOT to "give priority to the welfare and happiness of others", as you wrote in your first comment?"
          No Colleen, I'm saying that we as individuals first need to look after ourselves (in time) in order to be able to help others. Any organization or company needs to set up business first, look after itself first, in order to be able to sell a product or service. In order to become a doctor we need to do a lot of studying first.. etc. Then it would be best to be a doctor for the patienf, not for the money. So yes by that time prioritize others.
          This scenario is several times portrayed in the Bible with a first-born becoming less important than the second born one.

          I usually ask those that choose not to believe in a God, 'who do you give the merit to that people give to you for any good you do?
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          May 3 2013: Colleen you say I have changed my miind.. I have not.

          it is just, as in previous discussions, that you don't seem to want to follow what I'm saying.

          Best wishes
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        May 1 2013: Hi Mike, I think we usually love ourselves first for the practical reason to be healthy and also not hungry, so we are capable and willing to help others. To help others first, in this life, seems almost impossible and not many people do it. Although volunteering would seem a good way to go.
        Great to hear what a loving person your mom is!

        It is more the Golden rule that needs applying, which in itself wold make this a better world indeed.

        What I said was to love God first, (and everything else would just about fall into place) and our neighbour as ourselves.
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          May 1 2013: Adriaan,
          To help others in our world is not in any way "impossible", and people do it all the time.

          Are you now saying, NOT to "give priority to the welfare and happiness of others", as you wrote in your first comment?

          If it is the "golden rule that needs applying", that means do unto others as you would like them to do to you? Does that mean there is no priority, as you first suggested?

          You said to "love god first", and "everything else would just about fall into place".

          I respect that Adriaan, as your belief and perception.

          What about all those who choose not to believe in a god? Do you think/feel things "fall into place" for them? I believe that with awareness, and living mindfully, things may fall into place whether or not we believe in a god.
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          May 2 2013: Adriaan,
          This is a response to your comment which begins...
          "Are you now saying, NOT to "give priority to the welfare and happiness of others", as you wrote in your first comment?"
          No Colleen, I'm saying that we as individuals first need to look after ourselves (in time) in order to be able to help others".

          OK Adriaan, that is different from what you wrote in a previous comment, which states...
          "Give priority to the welfare and happiness of others."

          Apparently you changed your mind about that.....GREAT! Because it is a dis-service to teach and promote giving to others without taking care of ourselves.

          I am familiar with the bible Adriaan, and I do not think this discussion addresses bible study or god.

          The topic is..."
          "From government to individuality, as a whole or as a group, how do we change for the better?"

          My perception and experience, is that as soon as those who promote god and a religion stop bringing those concepts into every single conversation, we (humans) might start changing for the better:>)
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      May 3 2013: Adriaan,
      This is a response to your comment....

      "Adriaan Braam
      6 hours ago: Colleen you say I have changed my miind.. I have not.
      it is just, as in previous discussions, that you don't seem to want to follow what I'm saying.
      Best wishes"

      I think I am following what you write Adriaan, as I have in other discussions.

      Your first comment in this thread says:
      "Give priority to the welfare and happiness of others.
      "We are not born for the sake of ourselves, we are born for the sake of others." ~ E. Swedenborg."

      You then write:
      "I think we usually love ourselves first for the practical reason to be healthy..., so we are capable and willing to help others. It is more the Golden rule that needs applying, which in itself wold make this a better world indeed."

      In my perception Adriaan, there is a difference between giving "priority to the welfare and happiness of others.".... " we are born for the sake of others"

      OR
      " love ourselves first..., so we are capable and willing to help others. It is more the Golden rule that needs applying, which in itself wold make this a better world indeed."

      I agree with your second statements, and do not agree with your first statements, which I acknowledged:>)

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