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If communism was working the way its progenitors wanted it to, would it be better than capitalism?

The main reason why communism was made was people wanted to be equal without getting restricted by their environment, but nowadays communism is abused by some dictators such as North Korean leaders. Besides, capitalism also has its own problem. There are so many people who didn't have opportunities to try what they really wanted to do due to their poverty or else.
If communism was working as it should be, would it be better than capitalism?
(When there are no dictators)

Topics: Communism

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  • Apr 21 2013: By reading most of the comment here, I agree with most of the observations that said about communism, even in its pure theoretical sense, hadn't worked in history. Most of the religious communes also had at least one head honcho with absolute power (that's usually common practice in religious settings), which always leads to dictatorship, and then the corruption follows. The other problem is that the "equality" applies to only the sharing of the wealth, and not the sharing of the responsibility of production and community services. Marx was referring the equality for the production workers, but I am not sure he ever consider all the other people responsibility in the services to the society.
    I have examples of a few countries currently in the world actually almost achieved the goal of what Marx tried to project. For instance, New Zealand as I learned, has a very leveraged welfare state with very good health care and pension programs. The former is completely free to any citizen, and the latter furnished a decent amount to live on. And the pension amount for the retired premier of the government is the same as everybody else. Now that's equality! And in Sweden, the workers willingly pay high taxes so that they have a good welfare system and free health care for everybody too. In both of the countries, the civil and health care workers are mostly very conscientious, and cheerful in perform their duties without complaint.
    Why the workers there are cheerful to pay for and serving the fellow citizens with actually fewer strikes for more pay and more vacations or less working hours? Let me suggest that because the workers there are more educated, especially on the spirit of services to the society. As you know that their education systems are among the best in the world, not necessarily in # of prominent scientists, but very few dropouts. In essence, to achieve true equality, we must have majority of the citizens to be educated with true community service ethics as well
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      • Apr 23 2013: Thank you for letting me know about the good welfare system in Australia, Kate. In my posting, I just casually took two examples in NZ and Sweden, but I already know about Australia and possibly Norway too, that you also have excellent education systems as well as conscientious social workers. I am more familiar with NZ is because my son had worked there for several years (but he's back to the USA now)
        What I wanted to emphasize is the equality problem. I would like to say that achievement of equality probably depends more on the education system and the morality and ethics of the citizens, than depending on the political/economic systems; i. e. communism, capitalism or socialism. Expressed in another way, in the countries I mentioned, including Australia, there are no dictator like politicians, and also no capitalists strong enough to substantially control the government policies.

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