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Do we have a self (ego, soul, actor, etc.) that exhibits free will?

After doing a little studying on ego and bundle theories of self, I have come up with two arguments on these topics.

The first argument is pretty simple and supports ego theory of self:
All of my actions, decisions, and desires stem from a nonphysical "experiencer" inside of me. Therefore, I must have free will and I must have a self.

The second argument supports bundle theory:
All of my actions, decisions, and desires are the form of emergent properties of my brain which are manipulated by the environment. In this case, I do not have free will (since the environment is causing my actions and making decisions on my behalf) and thus, I can not have a self.

Which of these arguments do you agree with more and why?

Could these arguments be more refined to give a better understanding of the self and free will?

What might be a more sound argument regarding this issue?

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  • Apr 18 2013: your first argument in no way implies that you must have free will and that that means you must have a self as if not having free will means you don't exist gravity's force on you keeps your feet on the ground how much gravity can you hold in your hand i would say i'm describing a nonphysical experience or force which suggests i in face have no free will for i can not defy gravity any further than what force i can impress upon it now your second argument says we are products of our environment our environment being ourselves ourselves and environment being all the physical and nonphysical alike another way of saying everything that is has been and could every be is the self and free to be what ever it can will its self to be you being a manifestation of all this expressed to the degree of how much do you identify with as being self you are your cells but what free will do they have while they may not want those things you feed them your free will leaves them no choice in the matter what consideration do you have for them or do you only identify with their collective form and not you the individual cell you're as much one of your cells as you are them all

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