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Gabriela Nogueira

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Do you think that animals are completely free?

I've been thinking a lot about this and, personally, I think that animals are free. They have no obligations or judgments. They only follow their instinct, different from us human beings, that follow reason. So, that's the point: Do they know that they are free? And what worth the animal's freedom if they don't know that they are free? Is the idea of freedom exclusive of the rational beings?

I really would like to know your opinions, they are very important.
Thank you!

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    Apr 11 2013: I like how most people on here post a reply that is some sort of conclusion. An absolute. I think the idea of having a "debate" thread is to argue for one's opinion .. Oh well. Personally, I think that freedom is not enjoyed without a consciouss mind, y'know? Humans are the first (as we know) being able to reflect on their existence, and thereby I think we're the only ones able to realise that we're free, when we're not working -- those couples of minutes when you get down and think " I have spare time between this and studying, or going to a friends place" or something like that, that's our sudden realisation of freedom. Then again, if we were always free, then we wouldn't have freedom. I think freedom is defined by the consciouss mind realising that for a little while you don't have any concerns to take care of, but it is a neccesity that you do have concerns the rest of the time.
    • Apr 11 2013: I enjoyed reading your thoughts. Reminded me of Mr. Einstein who said:

      “Honestly, I cannot understand what people mean when they talk about the freedom of the human will. I have a feeling, for instance, that I will something or other; but what relation this has with freedom I cannot understand at all. I feel that I will to light my pipe and I do it; but how can I connect this up with the idea of freedom? What is behind the act of willing to light the pipe? Another act of willing? Schopenhauer once said: Der Mensch kann was er will; er kann aber nicht wollen was er will (Man can do what he will but he cannot will what he wills).”
      -AE

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