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Nthabiseng Sibaca

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Are you really helping anyone by giving a beggar, with toddlers, money?

There are many poor folks asking for donations with their children in tow. Often times, children old enough do the begging for their parents. By giving them money, are you encouraging begging as a quick fix for money or should you rather walk away?

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    Apr 9 2013: I will not give them money even in the case you point to. I will buy them food or give them work. The reality is however that they are typically addicted to something. The ones with children are typically scamming, they collect whatever public assistance is available to them and then get additional funds by panhandling.
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      Apr 10 2013: HI Pat, I like the work idea. That would sieve out the bad people and motivate the good people to make something more out of themselves. Just so concerned about these scams everyone is talking about. Has the world turned that bad and desperate?
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        Apr 10 2013: It is nothing new. Most of it stems from an addiction of some sort.
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          Apr 10 2013: I'm sorry Pat, I don't agree. Poverty is a trap that is nearly impossible to get out of. Once a person loses their income in a poor nation, their appearance quickly deteriorates and their only resort is to beg to survive. True, in the West, addictions are often responsible. Elsewhere, they have just fallen out the bottom of a non caring society
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        Apr 10 2013: Statistically speaking it is not a trap. Very few stay in the same statistical category rich or poor. But if you pay a person to stay poor, then they will of course stay poor, which helps the politician steal more of your money as they are then helping (themselves)
  • Apr 13 2013: When you come upon a beggar
    do you ascend or descend?

    When you go into your thinking, you are descending into something less human.
    When you drop from your head to your heart, that is an ascension.
    When you descend into your thinking, you close your heart.
    That feels horrible to me. I hate that.
    We are supposed to reveal our best, in ourselves and in each other, to one another.
    That is basically all. Trust it? Probably not or you wouldn't be in your head.

    "In all the places we were hiding love,
    What was it, we were thinking of?"......................Peter Gabriel

    Don't worry. I'm far, far, far from perfect.
    I can now recognize my heart closing and can stop it, which stops the madness of the mind from thinking, judging and becoming important. When I become important, I become afraid and that is why I close my heart.
    There is nothing to be afraid of.
    I can choose, money or fear?
    I would rather lose the fear, so the money can go.
    I once stole 5 American quarters all the while thinking they were the end of my financial worries.
    Importance.
    Do whatever you do. If you raise this question, you must be a very good person or it wouldn't bother you and you
    wouldn't think about it.
    I am finding it more and more difficult to see poverty anywhere.
    I wish I could personally end it for all time.


    Getting rid of all monetary systems would end poverty, inequality, slavery, greed, crime and no one could then invest in war and death, as they do.
  • Apr 11 2013: Charity is a good thing when a persons lack of wealth is out of their hands. Its good to help people without a chance at finding food or money such as people in many "third world" countries. However giving somebody charity when they are perfectly capable of finding a job is like enabling a drug addict and thats why the welfare state is bogus. People should only get money if they cant work for one reason or another.
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    Apr 10 2013: I have had crippled beggers (with rented babies) clutching at my legs as I pass them on the streets of India. As there are so many, most are ignored. The problem of hunger is a political issue, with it's vicims all around us. If all the money spent in Iraq was used to help, world hunger would be greatly irradicated
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    Apr 10 2013: I take in homeless women only(sorry men) because of my size I can do that. But not just anyone..there must be indications of a need that is not faked.It is generally a shower that they need,or a place out of the rain...it is doable..but if you are not an intuitive person,,,this is not a job for you.As a receiver of great kindness in the past,my path is clear...I will honour the gifts I recieve by giving to others. This is a belief in spirit that instructs in order to experience a connextion with the divine in the universe..I will act in a mirror image....Its not a new idea...but it genuine that my heart instructs my brain(regardless of logic) that this is in fact how I must behave. I would love to see what your poor are like...what is the difference...your situation may not be able to have such a belief as a guide
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    Apr 9 2013: In my brief encounter with extreme poverty...the best thing one can do for a needy person is give them your best wishes...say hello...and give assistance,ask them what they need..its not always money..most of these people feel hopeless..kindness makes a person feel human...(non of this applies to the con artist) I was homless for 3 weeks without children and I needed a place to wash,more then i needed food...food I could find,a washroom with a shower..none in site. My luck got worse and luckily a total stranger took me home for one night,i ate food,felt less desperate and worked my way out of the predicament. A person did give me ten dollars at one point and I threw the money away...In my case I was searching for humanity,not a handout...this may not help..but for me kindness was an event that brought me back into the collective fold
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      Apr 10 2013: Hi Carolyn, your story shows that an act of kindness has much more rewards and lasting effect than a quick toss of a coin. But with all the trust issues and people focusing on their own lives, I wonder how enthusiastic people are to help out in this way. Its so good to hear that you fought your way back to an improved life. It says a lot about your focus and willpower.

      Hugs Nthabi!
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      Apr 10 2013: Wow ZX, begging is a business? Im worried about the effect this has on kids. What kind of people do they grow up to be? Suppose, as well, the question that comes to mind is do you give the man a fish or do you teach them how to fish?....
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    Apr 9 2013: Hi Nthabiseng,

    This is a question I have not personally been able to answer for myself just yet. On one side I would like to of course help; on the other side, should I support people who run beggars for profit?

    Thanks,
    /S
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      Apr 10 2013: Hello Stefan

      Suppose if you think of the possibility of it being a scam you'd rather just walk away and not be a willing victim...