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Social Equality? So share the expenses of the wealthy, too.

Assuming socialism is right, the rich should give the poor their money. Why does it not also follow that the poor must also then share in the risks/debts/expenses/hard work/smart work/saving money which the wealthy use to create economic wealth?

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  • Apr 15 2013: The free market is a must. However, to completely ignore the fact that we do not all start on equal footing will be our downfall. To pretend that slavery, discrimination, and other ugly trends from our past dont still have a huge impact on our economic distribution is plain ignorance. The wealth should go to those who work for it. However, if the money at the top (some obtained through the dark practices of the past) stays at the top, the "equal" part of opportunity will never happen. A form of socialism is needed to help balance the scales. It is impossible to start over and have everyone start on equal footing and have a true free market where anyone can become anything. Our current system has been carefully laid out by the rich for the rich.
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      Apr 15 2013: So socialism is the cleanser of bad practices of the past. So, how long does the cleansing go on? Bad actions of the last hundred years are in play and all those previous are forgiven? No, I am afraid that socialist will always be calling for cleansing of the harden hearts of those who have wealth and the demand to take retribution. There will never be a time that there will not be someone who deserves a share from others.
      Equal opportunity has been legal since 1776. What you speak of is not opportunity, but success, sharing, or gifting. Sad you are so excited about legal robbery, because that 's all the redistribution of wealth is by any other name. It's like "ripping off" insurance companies, they can afford it. But, It's STEALING!!!
      • Apr 15 2013: Insurance companies are exactly who need to be "robbed" to have the ability to make billions, and be federally insured? And guess who wrote the laws to protect the insurance companies? Congressmen who were "lobbied" by the insurance companies with money. You fail to see my point. I am not arguing for socialism. I am saying that the system we have is not free market any more. The system we have is run by the rich, for the rich, paid for on the backs of the middle class and poor. And you argue that the poor have the "equal" opportunity that everyone else has. We cant sit by and watch the rich get richer and say "oh well, that's capitalism, that's just the way it is". The gap gets wider everyday and we should be ok with this?
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          Apr 15 2013: So, you justify robbery of those that deserve it? I am not going to discuss your moral values, that's between you and your confessor. However, I will concede that there has been collusion between our elected officials and unscrupulous industrialist. That is a problem to be addressed. And it has nothing to do with socialist polices.
      • Apr 15 2013: Stealing from a thief is no more a moral issue than deciding wether or not to use violence to defend yourself from from a violent attacker. And I confess to no one but God, and he's probably on the side of the poor and abused. But at least we can agree that the system is set up for the rich. I am not promoting socialism, what I am saying is that we need some socialistic ideas, (welfare, social security, etc) in order to help balance out the broken system. and I am aware the welfare and SS are broken, and do not perform as desired, but to completely remove them without a better alternative would be a horrible mistake.
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          Apr 15 2013: Sorry, I am still having a problem getting past ' stealing is as justified as self defense"
          everything else you said lost meaning.....
          Let see ... if I violently attack you to steal your wallet we are morally equal when you are fighting back defending yourself....

          I got to work with that for a minute.

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