Joshua Bare

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I'd like to build the first fully sustainable, large living community with a ZERO carbon footprint.

I'd like to build a fully sustainable community for like minded individuals and their children, which would have a neutral carbon footprint.

Everyone in the community would work for the same company - the parent company of the community. I am thinking solar panels since they are, and will always be, in demand.

We would have an education system that's geared towards "life sciences" where the children would learn to grow their own vegetables and help out in the farm, all while learning the staples - geared towards a college education.

We would have a farm. We'd grow all of our own food, and keep free-range livestock for meat. We'll brew our own beer and make our own wine.

The community would be profitable, successful in every way imaginable, and could be easily copied around the globe. Thus reducing greenhouse gases and helping to maintain the world's food supply.

I could also see this on tv, like the Science Channel, taping us and our progress. They could even try two communities and make it competitive.

I would need an investor with deep pockets to make this idea a reality. Here's to hoping for a better tomorrow!


Thanks for reading,

Josh B.

  • Apr 3 2011: How would this be generalizable to society at large or even the global economy? Currently only about 1% of the population is involved in agriculture. How would you resolve the disconnect between the hyper-redundant economy you describe and our current market-based economy that fractally divides into further levels of specialization? Also if you're going to have a zero footprint, wouldn't you need to be in a closed ecosystem to measure carbon inflows and outflows?
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    Apr 3 2011: Cool. Sounds like a variation of resource based economy. Count me in :)
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    May 28 2011: Great!
    You read my mind.
    And saying that the first step is to clean up mass passenger transportation.
    This technology is already here and developed and ready to go to the next step (Investors needed).

    Zero Emission Transportation

    The Airstream Train System is a new method of transportation that's a faster, safer, cleaner and cheaper solution for city, country and continental transportation.

    With small variations in design and speed it can be used in a low speed city environment to a high speed continental transportation system.

    The Airstream Train flies around the Track using cutting edge aviation technology. The Track is a hollow eliptical tube that provides a space for Internet, electricity, telephone, TV and even water to be supplied through it.

    It is easy to maintain and upgrade.
    It is a silent Transportation System that is faster than an airplane while producing water as the only exhaust.


    D.W. Major
    CEO
    Zero Emission Transportation Ltd.
    http://zeroemissiontransportation.webs.com
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    Apr 5 2011: Sounds like a Kibbuz to me.....although I'm not sure to which degree they are carbon neutral.
  • Apr 4 2011: I have considered an idea alike this, and am currently creating a City of Gaming that could 'digitally' promote an idea similiar to this through creating first, a digital model a self sustaining 'microcity'. In order for an idea like this to succeed, you would need first to set a population cap for each city. Say 5,000 or 10,000 per 'Microcity', after which you could use this number to determine the amount of food production that would be required in order to sustain the citizens of such a city. After creating a primary model, this could be cloned in order to create additional cities. The Primary Investors, could even potentially be citizens who move into such a community, and purchase 'condo-like' apartments. Essentially, a Microcity could be like a Condo with a self sustained business enterprise interconnected with it.

    Each microcity would also need to produce some sort of good or service that the outside world would be able to purchase. Technological Products, such as Video games as my idea proposes, would allow the people who live within the city to create products and generate revenue from exporting our digital product (video games). This would ensure that we do not require external resources, as our product would be composed of art/coding/ and other digial products that merely take personal time, and power to create using computer technology. The founding of such a community, would also allow for the creation of more advanced system of governance for those who live within its walls, as we could create a network that would allow for collective decision making by the entire community at large through a built in, atm-like system. You could easily login and Vote for City-wide issues.

    Also, due to the fact that what I propose is the creation of a Video game, essentially, the more players that join our game, the more funding that will be available for the city and company that runs the program. This would allow us to develop additional cities at a lower cost. :)
  • Apr 4 2011: Dear Joshua Bare,

    That’s a great idea, maybe you should explore for some examples already out in this world. Maybe this can give you more detailed ideas; there is this commune in the north of Italy, Damanhur, that is striving to do something similar. They started in the seventies as a social experiment and they are quite successful. They engage in scientific research, have their own educational system, all kinds of crafts and arts, they have multiple farms in the region, they build an underground temple by hand and are politically active. They received an award from the united nations as an example society for a sustainable future. I believe they are going a bit far in their doctrine, giving it too much of a hippie like image and too much sect related vibes for my taste, but they got the right ideals. Anyone who’s interested should check it out and see for themselves; http://www.damanhur.org/

    Let me know what you think,

    Lotte
    • Apr 11 2011: this! Also I think there's a community in Scotland as well that do this, I'm sorry I can't provide more details but I read about it years ago. I do remember though that people/families could only move into the community after a trial basis of living there and contributing to make sure the family weren't going through a fad of "oh my god that sounds awesome let's do that now!" and were actually committed to that type of lifestyle.
  • Apr 4 2011: Noticed That beer & wine holds a spot near the top-lol
    Have you seen "Journey to Planet Earth" by Lester Brown? Seems you could get more insight from that.
    To save our planet we need to get everyone on board NOW and NOT wait 20-50 yrs. It still maybe too late for us.
    As for deep pockets: Most of those folks don't believe in Global Warming.
    Good luck!
  • Apr 3 2011: for this to be possible it would have to be some place with good and varied natural resources. While its all well and good to say you will grow your own food, livestock, wine etc not all land is equally fit to grow such things. Even if you are able make the land produce everything you need, it still wont be nearly as efficient as growing the agriculture where it is naturally suited to grow.
    If you were to choose a plot of land with strong agricultural potential then you would be wasting that land on other things your needed for your society to run.
    While i like the idea in and of itself, i think it is unlikely to be as profitable as you seem to hope it will be.
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    Apr 3 2011: Hey Philiip,

    I think it would be impossible to utilize a closed system in order to measure carbon at the size and scale I am thinking about. The goal would be zero, but I wouldn't want to be hyper-focused on it. The real goal is self-sustainability.

    My hope would be that the community is so successful that people take notice of it. And one thing that humans are good at is mimicking. I would want it copied and utilized across the globe eventually.

    Lead by example and others will be soon to follow.
    • Apr 5 2011: There are economic reasons why we our society does not use micro-economies such as what you describe, primarily because they're extremely inefficient. Economic specialization offers many more advantages than disadvantages. Of course the trade-off with that is that we are not as resilient and may become so specialized that we lost sight of how to become resilient if we need to be. How many people could make their own toaster from scratch (see TED video)?

      I'm interested in space AND the environment. I'd like to see more research on closed ecosystems and hopefully one day we'll have a significant amount of research dollars dedicated to it. But keep in mind that even though ecological/technological homeostasis may be possible, it'll probably be done using our society's current structures.

      One book that gives a pretty good illustration of a radically green society is called "Ecotopia" by Ernest Callenbach. In it, he offers a vision similar to the one portrayed at the end of the Mannahatta Project TED video. You may also want to check out the Arcosanti Project near Phoenix.