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Robert Winner


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Does winning take care of everything?

Many of our big name stars in the USA have fallen off of the wagon in some manner. The biggest names like Tiger Woods, Rick Pitino, Kobe Bryant all were caught cheating ... no sorrow .. no regret ... just plain ole liers and cheats. Even Nike was discussed enough to drop Tiger ... that is until last week when the Biggest name in cheating won and became the #1 golfer in the world again .. then the ad .. "Winning takes care of everything". Rick Pitino coach Louisville basketball is on the way to the finals in the NCAA tourneyment ... a while back he was having sex with a waitress on the table of a resturant .. bad ... hated ... and now he is the worlds best coach. Kobe Bryant ... caught .... buy the biggest diamond in town ... go to the Olympics and be on a winning team and bingo your back at #1 in the hearts of America.

Bill Clinton is the poster child for cheating and lying ... yet respected and admired in the Democratic party and speaks for $50,000 a hour.

These are cheaters and liers. I don't get it.

Does winning take care of everything?


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    Apr 2 2013: I think it goes wrong when we expect sports people etc to be more then they are. I don't care if Tiger cheats on his wife because I don't look to tiger for moral leadership I look to Tiger to improve my swing. The whole concept of the "hero" is flawed. There are paople who you admire for a particular quality they have. But somehow we have come to the point where if you're a successful sportsman, musician, actor, politician etc you also need to be perfect in every way. I will return to my heart surgery analogy. I don't care if Adolf Hitler does my operation as long as he's a good surgeon.
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      Apr 2 2013: Agreed ... it probally happened long ago when we held up professionals as role models. The .. I want to grow up to be like (name a star / politician / athelete).

      Part of the problem ... IMO .. is that we are bombed by the media when they buy a car, eat a meal, cheat, demonstrate unethical acts, etc ... In polisci we are taught that the most important thing is name recognition .... we can name the movie star, actor, dancer, singer, athelete, etc ... I would be hard pressed to name 5 nobel prize winners. It took me three tries by the way. Every kid in school can name the Quarterback on his school football team ... replace with the honor spot in your countries sport ... How many can name last years Valedictorian and Salutatorian. When I went to school we had awards for sportsmanship, most improved, and many other awards ... today the only thing that counts is winning. I don't believe that morals and ethics are held with the same values.

      American colleges that have a winning histrory get more recruits and more student enrollment. Sports are a major part of the fisical health of the school. Coaches are paid in the millions and receive much more in perks. The records also show that the student athelete is a cash cow and few graduate ... their education while there is a joke. I was in a class with a all american basketball player ... we were given a pop quiz and he handed in three type written pages in the first five minutes and left. He could spell his name right given three tries and two changes by the proctor. But he was worth millions to the school. When his player eligability ran out (4 years) he left school ... no sheep skin.

      I would not allow Hitler to do the operation ... his attitude on value of life would strike him from my list. I want a guy the fight to keep me alive .. not shrug his shoulders if I die.

      Thanks for the reply. Bob.

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