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Discuss the note to the TED community on the withdrawal of the TEDxWestHollywood license.

For discussion: http://blog.ted.com/2013/04/01/a-note-to-the-ted-community-on-the-withdrawal-of-the-tedxwesthollywood-license

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    Apr 6 2013: According to Pat Robertson, the reason more miracles don't happen in the U.S. is because of the pernicious effects of education, science, and skepticism. His thinking seems to be in line with views expressed in the online conversations about Sheldrake, Hancock, and West Hollywood. Is science getting in the way of miracles?

    As Heather Horn writes:

    "Well, we're so sophisticated. We think we've got everything figured out. We know about evolution, we know about Darwin, we know about all these things that say god isn't real. We know about all this stuff and if we've been in many schools, the more advanced schools, we have been inundated with skepticism and secularism. And overseas they're simple, humble, you tell them God loves them and they say 'okay he loves me.' And you tell them God will do miracles and they say 'okay, we believe you.' And that's what God's looking for. That's why they have miracles."

    Why Are There So Few Resurrected Corpses in the United States?
    http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/04/why-are-there-so-few-resurrected-corpses-in-the-united-states/274681/
    • Apr 6 2013: OK, it's tough right now in Kansas, but that's a problem for the people of Kansas. I have no interest in your ongoing religious war and I don't particularly like the collateral damage your inflicting on the rest of the world.
    • Apr 6 2013: John I'm no longer following? how are Pat Robertson, Heather Horn, resurrected and corpses connected to TEDx?
      • Apr 6 2013: They aren't. That's why I decided it was time to have a go at pens.
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        Apr 6 2013: Adrian, according to Pat Robertson, the reason more miracles don't happen in the U.S. is because of the pernicious effects of education, science, and skepticism. His thinking seems to be in line with views expressed in the online conversations about Sheldrake, Hancock, and West Hollywood.
        • Apr 6 2013: Which is to say that Robertson is making as wild a claim as, say, someone arguing the holocaust was the result of the lack of proper peer-review in the journal of the SPR.
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        Apr 6 2013: Which no one has done, although errors of comprehension and fallacious interpretations may result in the illusion that they have.

        Slippery slope
        http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope
        • Apr 6 2013: I find errors of comprehension are avoided when one explains, rather than refuses point blank to explain, what one was saying. So, eg, if someone used, say, the nazis as an analogy, and was then asked how the analogy was supposed to work and instead of explaining simple banged on more about the nazis while resisting numerous requests for clarification, then that person loses the right to complain about being misunderstood. And so in such a case it would help, and seem a simple enough matter, for the one complaining about being misunderstood to explain how, eg, the stuff about the nazis maps onto the stuff here. That's assuming, of course, that the person complaining of being misunderstood was actually being misunderstood and was not simply evading the issue because, say, they had been called out on obvious nonsense and were simply trying to muddy the waters (as they had done 100 times before).
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        Apr 6 2013: But I have explained. You're just not satisfied with my explanation. I would have explained further, but have been disinclined to do so because of Noah's false charge of "argumentum ad Hitlerum" and other ridiculing ad hominem comments that indicated a refusal to take me seriously. If you would take me seriously, I would be happy to explain further.
        • Apr 6 2013: No you didn't explain - you refused to explain. You ended up saying you were not going to explain. I asked for the mapping and you never gave it.
        • Apr 7 2013: Thanks Steve that's how I read it, John you do that often, you refer to things to generate negative sentiments and you imply those sentiments to TEDx, Sheldrake and Hancock without providing any evidence.
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        Apr 6 2013: Prove it.
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        Apr 7 2013: And my last response to you remains the same as it was before:

        "Sorry, Steve. I give up. I'm just too dense to pursue this with you any further."

        However, I'm willing to reconsider with one condition.

        You wrote:

        "So, I ask you again: How does the holocaust map onto the situation here? I have no interest in another of your lengthy posts solely about Nazi Germany which avoids any attempt at mapping the events there to the events here."

        If I answer, you must agree not to comment on my response. If you do, it will be deleted.
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        Apr 7 2013: As you like. Suit yourself. I withdraw my offer.

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