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Discuss the note to the TED community on the withdrawal of the TEDxWestHollywood license.

For discussion: http://blog.ted.com/2013/04/01/a-note-to-the-ted-community-on-the-withdrawal-of-the-tedxwesthollywood-license

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    Apr 7 2013: Just so people know, as TED is now very aggressively deleting everything I post outside of the "naughty corner", once this conversation ends it might be difficult to continue the discussion here at TED (although I do intend to keep trying).

    Just in case, I would like to point out a few safe havens for conversation:

    http://weilerpsiblog.wordpress.com/2013/04/06/ted-makes-a-decision-not-technically-censorship-plus-a-recap/
    http://forum.mind-energy.net/skeptiko-podcast/
    • Apr 7 2013: Well look at what you write. Everything you say is extremely accusatory and you are not debating anything.
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        Apr 7 2013: Leroy, tell me what was accusatory in this TED conversation propsal which was first accepted then later deleted by TED:

        Title: Giving the public a voice in science: How to use crowd-sourcing to fund innovative new work

        Full Text: Funding is what drives research these days. As grant monies become more and more scarce, scientists are looking for new ways to support the work that they do. In Canada, changes to the NSERC (National Science and Engineering Research Council) grant system now place more weight on grant proposals which have a greater potential for an economic payoff. And having industry on board to cover some of the costs adds even more credence to the grant proposal. For example, research in support of the mining industry is more likely to get financial support from NSERC than research into environmental issues.

        I think crowd-sourcing is one way to help remedy this disparity in funding. It allows people to support work that they personally find of value, rather than industrial applications which don't benefit them personally.

        I'd like to hear from people who know about interesting crowd-sourced research, as well as from those who have an opinion on whether or not this is the answer for projects that fall through the cracks of traditional funding means.
        • Apr 7 2013: mmmm, well nothing in what you posted there, but in all your other stuff, maybe someone flagged it or the fact that it is off topic might be it. But lots of other off topic stuff not deleted. so i dunno about what you shared here.
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          Apr 7 2013: That is not even Sandy's stuff. She copied it from this discussion:

          http://forum.mind-energy.net/showthread.php?p=146621#post146621

          It's anybody's guess what the original context of it was or whether this is even the full proposal.
        • Apr 7 2013: First of all, that is Sandy. It's her comment at the forum. Second, the context is she had a proposal accepted and then removed. The URL was:

          http://www.ted.com/conversations/17545/giving_the_p..is is

          This is from an email notification but the link is cut off.
        • Apr 7 2013: oh so Sandy was being dishonest? Sigh.
        • Apr 7 2013: Sandy posts something here and it gets deleted and then someone called Sandy posts a link and discussion about it on another forum. Hoopes the intrepid investigator springs into action and announces that it's not Sandy's stuff but stuff from another site (also by Sandy and clearly in reference to Sandy's post here but Hoopes doesn't notice that). No Sherlock Holmes this Hoopes, more Lestrade of the Yard.
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        Apr 7 2013: John, it is my "stuff". It is the full proposal. I have the original email from TED as well. But you are an admin here, so you already knew that. You've been deleting comments, editing comments and having a great time showing the world how messed up TED really is.
    • Apr 7 2013: And that took about, um, a minute for me to figure out, with or without the email notification.
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        Apr 7 2013: Thanks. You are much more clever than those two, John Campbell.

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