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Obey No1kinobe


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Is the golden rule flawed?

Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

What if what you want for yourself is not what others want done to them?

Perhaps the Confucian version is better: Do not impose on others what you do not wish for yourself, rather than forcing your views on other people.

Perhaps we let people do there own thing up to the point where it harms others?


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  • Mar 26 2013: Thanks to all for some interesting reading and to Obey for a worthwhile question. My 2 cents: Jesus says that everything hangs on love God and love your neighbor. Figuring out what that means in a given situation isn't always easy. Sometimes that means acting. Sometimes it means refraining from acting. But in every case it means focusing on the flourishing of the other. The Confucian version is right that impositions are usually bad between mature people, but what about cajoling, encouraging, influencing, modeling, inviting. Finding the right degree of push to give is often a vital part of trying to be "good". In short, rules are where the negotiations should begin.
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      Mar 26 2013: Great points josh.

      I guess the refinement I am considering, building on your comment, is perhaps the starting point is to defer to what the recipient thinks will help their life flourish. Not assuming you know best. But obviously within limits.

      It is probably situational like many ethical dilemmas.
      Consensus may be suitable in some cases.
      Command in others.

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