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How can we consider the bible credible?

How could we rely on what the bible tells us? Looking at the bible from a historical point of view, it has been translated over and over again into hundreds of different languages. Over the years kings and rulers have altered and manipulated aspects to suit their reign. Even today there are multiple different interpretations. What effects do you think this has on the content?

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  • Mar 26 2013: How can anyone be a 'sinner before God" if Jesus died for our sins?
    That implies to me that all is forgiven, from the beginning, ahead of time, and not at the end
    because it won't be needed at the end.
    Forgiveness has already been granted. It's a done deal.
    There's nothing to worry about.
    That's how I've always seen it.
    Setting humans free in that manner is to have set them free forever and from the get-go.
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      Mar 26 2013: What you say is at complete variance with what the Holy Bible teaches. You are free to design and promote your own doctrines and religion, but this discussion is about what the Bible teaches. Most folks believe, just as you seem to, that they have a complete understanding of the Holy Bible and are qualified to offer commentary on what it teaches. The fact is very few have the ability to understand the Holy Bible. Only those who have been born again and are now led by the Spirit of God can make one bit of sense of the Holy Bible. For those without God's Spirit the Holy Bible is foolishness. Reliable explanation of what the Holy Bible teaches cannot possibly come from a person who does not have God's Holy Spirt guiding them. Such a person might as well claim to be an expert in neurosurgery when they have none of the education or training necessary to make such a claim. Thanks for sharing your personal doctrine and religion, but please don't represent it as Biblical Theology. Keep searching and be well.
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        Apr 11 2013: Edward,
        I am far from a Bible Scholar, and I do not think that I am led by the Holy Ghost. I do respect other people's right to believe as they see fit, and will defend that that right in any forum.
        That said, you state "Most folks believe.. that they have a complete understanding of the Holy Bible and are qualified to offer commentary on what it teaches. The fact is very few have the ability to understand the Holy Bible. Only those who have been born again and are now led by the Spirit of God can make one bit of sense of the Holy Bible. For those without God's Spirit the Holy Bible is foolishness. Reliable explanation of what the Holy Bible teaches cannot possibly come from a person who does not have God's Holy Spirt guiding them. ( I left Spirit as originally written).
        OK, so if I understand correctly you are saying that: I can understand a newspaper article correctly but not the Bible, but if I had the Holy Spirit I would understand both. So God is incapable of writing to be understood, while men can be understood in the newspaper. This also makes all books on Earth understandable without the Holy Spirit, minus the Bible.So by default we are prevented from understanding it until one of 33,820 denominations with 3,445,000 congregations/churches of Christianity or Christianities decodes the Bible for me, or another mechanism in which from another non-physical realm information will be conveyed to me in an understandable format. And you say that is a "fact that very few have the ability to understand the Holy Bible", Who I ask are those" very few?" Also you would agree that Judaism albeit being older than Christianities is misreading the Tanach? And Judaism followers are kept off limits from understanding their own God?

        Once again I do not have doctrines or claim to be an expert on Theological matters, but your post sounded as if you have a direct line to God ; it sounds very authoritative, Since you tell Random C. what to represent as Theology or not.

        Cheers!

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