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Black holes are not due to exploding stars, but rather due to spin.

Black holes spin into existence and position!

Black holes are not due to exploding stars.

From what science claims, black holes are created by massive stars exploding or imploding. i see it as the spinning motion of our galaxy at approx 600,000 mph and the spin of each celestial body that spins and rotates around each other inside the galaxy, setting up the spinning vortex we call black holes, at least that's how I see it. Science has claimed black holes are due to massive stars exploding or imploding and these largest of stars all just happen to be in te exact middle of each galaxy? How funny.


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  • Mar 21 2013: Addendum to my topic starter.

    Science claims that a super massive star exploded at the center of every galaxy. Wow, talk about coincidence!

    If we consider a whirlpool in water, we could think of a whirlpool of air, created by each galaxy that according to science, is spinning at great speeds.
    Our galaxy is spinning at about 594,000 miles per hour. Then we have every celestial body inside the galaxy, spinning and rotating around each other.

    The spinning galaxy must create a swirling vortex of air that would naturally focus at the center of the galaxy, as the spinning creates friction across all the celestial bodies in that galaxy, which would become a black hole, unless someone can convince me otherwise.

    Thank you
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      Mar 22 2013: Hi Jim

      I don't know if it is intentional, but you deliver centuries of astronomic observations in a rather sarcastic manner.

      Due to the gravitational pull and the laws of motion it is natural for galaxies to form around massive stars. When they die, they collapse to form black holes. It is not a coincidence.

      If there was air in the galaxy and this was caused because of friction, the galaxy would look very different. The earth wouldn't exist if it was moving through air, as the friction would cause a lot of damage in the same way that meteors burn when they enter our atmosphere.

      Apart from that, if black holes spin into existence, what is it exactly that spins? And what causes that angular momentum? And how would that in any way cause an attractive force?

      I suggest you read about Newton's theory of gravity and Einstein's general theory of relativity as they explain the motion and forces of celestial bodies very precise. These theories have been tested and are consistent with our observations.
      • Mar 22 2013: I am sarcastic because because evolution makes so many claims, that I see as dumbing down children and confusing them. Red shift, blue shift, the many changing faces of the big bang, speed of light theory, gravity and on and on.

        How far out does earths atmosphere go and since our planet is spinning at 1,000 mph, do you really think that spinning creates no reaction?

        Our galaxy spins at about 600,000 mph. For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. I say that spinning creates friction on all the celestial bodies in each galaxy and that's what creates the spinning vortex, known as a black hole. If not, what is the opposing reaction of our galaxies 600,000 mph spin?

        You believe whatever your told, while I challenge. Answer the question above, that science doesn't bother with. Spin is in every living thing, in every celestial body and tell us, what does science explain as the reaction of spin in everyone and thing?
        • Mar 23 2013: The spinning and gravity is the cause and effect. That is why the air is in the “air” the gravity of our core has less pull on those molecules and the spinning of the core is what caused the elements to separate into layers from the core outwards. And as far as what you refer to as our planet is spinning at 1000mph is more a matter of perspective.meaning distance traveled or RPM and even when you think about the rpm that is factored by surface tension of all the particles from the core to the outer most particles of our atmosphere
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          Mar 23 2013: Hi Jim

          First of all, what does evolution have to do with any of this?

          You seem to have completely misunderstood basic science, the scientific method and how scientific discoveries come about.

          Science has made many discoveries and we have many models to describe how the world works. Just because you find them confusing, complex or counter intuitive doesn't change the fact that they have been tested and are in compliance with observations.

          Before you reject the work of people that have dedicated their lives to understanding the world we live in, at least have the common decency to understand what it is.

          Quote: "You believe whatever your told, while I challenge."
          You are not in a position to make a statement about what I believe; and you haven't challenged a thing. All your arguments are based on your limited experience on this earth. There is air on earth, therefore you think it is everywhere in the universe.

          By the way how do you know how fast the earth and the galaxy is spinning? You only know this because that's what you've been told.

          I could refute most of your ideas only using logic, but it would probably be a waste of my time, as I imagine debating with you would be like debating with a stubborn 6 year old, who thinks he knows everything.
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          Mar 23 2013: Actually every speed calculation is based on the assumption that we are traveling in a circle instead of an ellipse.

          Since we are traveling in a ellipse it is impossible to calculate as a constant because it is always changing
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          Mar 23 2013: Also since we are talking about evolution please tell me how the birth of a child is not evolution

      • Mar 23 2013: You like most all evolutionists resort to childish insinuations, instead of refuting what has been said. Move on Faisal.
      • Mar 23 2013: Many call me know it all. Jealousy becomes you Faisal.
        You can't logically refute what I write, so you resort to childish insinuations. You like so many were taught very poorly. Science does a horrible job of teaching. You're not to blame Faisal, you are just a product of such a poor education.
      • Mar 23 2013: 5 minutes ago: If you are more than cut and paste, tell us what you find as remarkable on the following web page.
        This is why science fails people--especially children and people fail science.
      • Mar 23 2013: Then show us where science bases its calculations on circles instead of ellipses. Science claims we are moving around the sun in an elliptical orbit. It seems you've been reading different science books or articles.
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          Mar 26 2013: Mate, you are way out of line.

          I would gladly debate, if there was anything to debate and if you had some grasp of the concept of logic and rational thought. Putting an exclamation mark after a claim is not an argument.

          I understand that you've had some poor teachers in the past, but that is no excuse for being ignorant, arrogant and delusional.

          However, there is a forum for people who believe the earth is flat. I think you'll find like minded people there.

      • Mar 26 2013: When you can refute what's written, let me know. So far all ya got is childish innuendo.

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