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## Do we really see/live in 3 dimensions? Or is it two highly symmetrical 2 dimensional fractal images?

As we explore this world more and more fractals have become the math of nature, and oddly enough we/some of us here on TED had already gotten rid of math in nature in one of the ted conversations that I started “Is our math wrong?”. One of the main points of the conversation was the idea of where do we start counting?

http://www.ted.com/conversations/13925/is_our_math_wrong_is_it_our_a.html

At the time of this ted conversation I had no clue about fractal dimensions and the only thing I really new about fractals is the 2 Ted Talks. We are pattern thinker, that is what as a species humans do is think in patterns. Our eyes (all 3 eyes) interpret these patterns for us and create the visual image that you see in front of you today. We get one fractal image from the right eye and one fractal image from the left eye, our eyes and brain then bring those two fractal images together and create the 3D yet Non 3D world that we see around us.

This video points out that pretty much everything in Nature is fractal in "nature". One of the key points of this video and fractals at large is also asking the question where do you start counting?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LemPnZn54Kw

Think of these 2 fractal dimensional images as a stereographs or grams. Most if not all of these images are probably fractals.

http://www.colorstereo.com/

What it seems to me is that we are a collection of fractal codes much like how Mandelbrot"s code combined all of the Julia set's. Our reality is a set of all infinite fractal codes combined... I think

**Topics:**3D Dimensions fractal life

## Fritzie - 200+

Here is a short article written for kids (so no fancy math footwork) explaining how this happens. http://math.rice.edu/~lanius/fractals/dim.html

If you are comfortable with math through logarithms and limits, you can find lots of additional stuff online on the subject.

## Casey Christofaris 10+

## Fritzie - 200+

## Casey Christofaris 10+

## Casey Christofaris 10+

## Fritzie - 200+

I am much older than you, but I find great pleasure in studying areas I had never looked at before.

An author you might enjoy who has written a series for laypeople about interesting mathematical ideas is Theoni Pappas. You might check out her work next time you are in a bookstore.

She doesn't write longish essays as, say, Martin Garner did (also wonderful stuff) but rather short 1-3 page things. Nice nuggets for a bus ride or at the breakfast table.

## Casey Christofaris 10+

## Casey Christofaris 10+

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/08/080818-body-symmetry.html

## Fritzie - 200+

My kids say each eye sees in 2D and the two together allow you to perceive depth. My high school biology was too long ago to remember how eyes work.

## Casey Christofaris 10+

## Casey Christofaris 10+

Although I am also saying that the 3d is an illusion and only exist because we perceive it that way

## Fritzie - 200+

## Casey Christofaris 10+

## Fritzie - 200+

## Casey Christofaris 10+

## Casey Christofaris 10+

## Fritzie - 200+

## Casey Christofaris 10+

## Fritzie - 200+

Have fun!

## Romas Blazys

Fractals in nature are so beautiful; they make the work of men (even skyscrapers) seem plain.

## Adrinn Chelton

It could be that there is a much, much larger universe made up of matter which exists in 3 or more dimensions. All we can see or experience directly is a cross section since we exist on a constantly moving razor's edge of that universe, which we know as now. Any dimensions we perceive are only relevant because we can move within them and movement takes "time".

Also this helps with the conundrum that is the global speed limit of light. Imagine if we were traveling in a direction at the speed of light through this "other" dimension, then the speed limit in any direction we can travel would be proportional to the speed we are traveling currently in the grain of "time". Sort of like a sky diver falling towards earth, you can certainly modify where you are going to land but you aren't going to be flying back to the plane under your own power.

## Casey Christofaris 10+

Also if we are the light, how could we ever measure our self

## Casey Christofaris 10+

http://www.oddee.com/item_97859.aspx

This guy hits his head and can now play the piano like Mozart. He says that he sees a pattern in his head/eyes that allows him to play as well as he does.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/acquired-savant-derek-amato-musical-prodigy-hitting-head-hard-diving-shallow-pool-article-1.1091812

This information is innately (however amnesia/zero relativity is at birth) in them and through our parents teaching us which patterns to follow or not follow. What’s up or down? Oddly enough this is all arbitrary, what we have been discovering is circles.

"Well I would trust that the Dean is educated enough to understand Einstein's point that any ray of light ( a straight line ) send out will eventually return to its origin and therefore he would understand that there are no "straight lines"" ~Ed Schulte

## Casey Christofaris 10+

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOgByd-EZ34

What makes humans so amazing is that we are both the light and the dark/shadow moving as independent self-reflecting/complete circle entities happening at the smallest/slowest movement/vibration/fractal.

## Romas Blazys

## Casey Christofaris 10+

Think about how stereograms work

http://www.brainbashers.com/stereo.asp

## Casey Christofaris 10+

The eye flips the image so the visible world that you are looking at is a mirror image

## ray lepierre

About the EMP shield maybe the Armed Forces might put it to good use since it would take a while to adapt it to every day Life as it happened with "tin foil" remember? it was first used in the pioneering Space Flights of the 60's and now we have it in our Kitchens. Casey is your Work related to Technology?

## Casey Christofaris 10+

## ray lepierre

Personally I'm about to Patent an EMP shield that I also built using these set of Dark Matter/Space Time Mathematics, our Country needs a truly reliiable EMP shielding for it's Electric Grid/Electronics, at any time our Mother Star the Sun could blast us back to the Stone Age or an Actual Nuclear Blast can do that also, it is frightening but real Casey.

## Casey Christofaris 10+

Your EMP shield seems interesting, how ever to mass produce it to the populous it would have to not look like it came from space tre

## ray lepierre

a symmetry that comes with an everlasting depletion/exchange between an unseen Dark Matter "Halo" around ALL -including us- that has "Mass" in the Universe, now at this point New Theories/Mathematics can be derived and therefore better ways to build stuff by using our Symmetrical Dark Matter Half, like Fusion or the so far Fabled "Anti Gravity". And yes to your ponderings, Mass as we know it cannot be defined by weight , or the tangible seen/measured kind of weight but also the weight of that other part or it's equivalent in Dark Matter. I would discuss the Formula with you sometime but I believe that would have to happen maybe even in person so I can show you the Proof of it, do you know that current Science is still "Hunting Witches" when it comes to these topics? specially Fusion.

## Casey Christofaris 10+

## ray lepierre

To better illustrate this Theory I did the following: using my technical data I replicated 3 layers of my "Dark Matter algorithm" using just Copper and shielded a regular 1.5 Volt AA battery with it , I placed a second 1.5 Volt AA battery without the Shield and drove in my car for 10 miles - bear in mind that both batteries are not powering anything they were just in my briefcase- using a voltimeter I measured the charges and found: that the unshielded battery had a charge of 1.48 Volts and the "Space-Time Shielded" same AA battery remained intact at 1.5 Volts. I'm sure that the depreciation of Voltage is not really significant for the common person but for me it was a shock , what happen to the stored electrons in the unshielded battery? they leaked out all of a sudden? was it a defective battery? is this happening all around us in everyday Life and nobody notices it?

is it the fact that we can just simply recharge them with alternators or simple home chargers? WHAT THE DEVIL are these scientist currently doing? where is the Progress of Science? why isn't anybody talking about these losses of energy caused by "The invisible Interaction of Dark Matter"

We live in a Fluid Universe, a Sea of Dark Matter that is just waiting to be Sailed

## ray lepierre

I have funded my research myself for years and I can tell you that yes as Einstein well sai it: Space and Time are 1 not 2 separate entities or mathematical variables they both make up a fabulous "engine-like" structure that is what actually sits at the heart of All coalesced Matter from Subatomic Particles, Stars up to the Biggest Objects in the Universe

## Casey Christofaris 10+

## ray lepierre

When you talk about Fractals the notion of Riemannian Geometry comes immediately to my mind since it was Riemann the one that first posed the idea of a universal mathematically expressable form. here on Earth We do have 2 big problems that will hinder our knowledge of a 4th Dimension which I call Space-Time:

1- our proximity to the Sun and

2- our petty quarrels as Species (these include:religion, race, pseudo-science, economics and the folly of Fossil Fuels) ... Why?

The closeness to our own Life Giving Star has deprived our human eyes (though Natural Selection) of the perception of certain wavelenghts in the spectrum of Light that otherwise would allow us to observe the cobweb of Dark Matter that expands in all directions and which even permeates through us -as it does through subatomic particles-

Mathematically the Equation for the Primordial "Genesis" would definetely have to include a mirror image of Dark Matter indeed for a constant Algorythm(fractal) to Work, This is the basis for Quantum Gravity and I would be glad to put it in formulas. I have worked on a Dark Matter general formula eversince we acquired the wmap data and my findings are mindboggling , too bad NASA has overlooked the best part of it despite showering it's "Scientists" with billions of dollars.

## Casey Christofaris 10+

## Casey Christofaris 10+

## Pabitra Mukhopadhyay 50+

The spacial dimensions are mathematical abstractions. Nature does not follow that abstraction. If one maintains that true integer dimensions are perfect then most of nature is imperfect. You cannot find a truly one, two or three dimensional objects in physical reality rather it is replete with fractals. So it is natural that brain, which is a physical machine of perception must have evolved to handle fractals.

I don't think human brain can perceive any more than 3 spacial dimensions simply because it evolved in an environment where it is good enough to perceive 3D objects. If you consider time as a fourth dimension, human brain cannot perceive it simply because we move in speeds way slower than that of photons. If we evolved in an environment where it were possible or necessary to maneuver at speeds, say 0.9c or 0.99c, our brain could have the ability to perceive space time.

For all higher dimensions, it will be mathematical abstractions and beyond human perception as reality.

## Casey Christofaris 10+

What if our actual dimension is 3.14 since that is where we hit infinity again? Within Infinity

## Casey Christofaris 10+

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFLkou8NvJo