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greg dahlen

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Many people in this world are more famous than me. I guess that means they're better people than me, right? And better than you, right?

I probably don't even need to example some people more famous than me, famous for their positive achievements. Brad Pitt; Bill Gates; Peyton Manning; and so on. If they're more famous than me for good things they've done, that means they're better than me, right? And also better than you, right?

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    Mar 19 2013: Greg, I also think that Hitler was famous, how about Nero, pontius Pilate, Attila the Hun, Jack the Ripper, etc ... Just for the record I had to look up Brad Pitt. I also looked you up ... You have a BA from Stanford ... you do not get those with a box top from Kellogs rice crispies. I consider Stanford one of the best schools in the USA and among the best in the world. I salute you.

    If I were Catholic I may think the Pope or Mother Teressa as "great people" .... If I were a sadist then the Marques De Sade would be my hero ... The fact is Greg ... why do I have to think someone is better than me or you ... I may be honest in thinking that Joe is a better mechanic .. Judy is a better writer .. Sam is great at math .... Anne is a science whizz .... That is a evaluation of a talent / strength ... not the worth of a individual. Any of those peope, although talented in certain areas may be a lousey parent ... a drunk ... a murderer .... a canibal (yuck). Just because they have a talent does not stamp their ticket "good".

    Greg all I want is to be the best ME I can be. My friends and family know me for what I am.

    All the best. Bob.
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      Mar 31 2013: Well, certain people, like Jack the Ripper, are infamous rather than famous, no?

      I don't know, Robert, I tend to think that when a person gets really good at one thing, it ripples across their whole life and makes them somewhat better at many other things. For instance, Tom Cruise is really good at acting, but I expect he's better at washing the dishes than most people, too. The mental stimulation you get as you get better at one difficult thing you can then apply to the other things you do and do them better, too.
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        Mar 31 2013: I agree Greg, that sometimes, the better one gets at one thing may contribute to self esteem and confidence to apply the information to other things. Do you think/feel all people use this knowledge and practice?
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          Mar 31 2013: Not just self esteem and confidence, Colleen, but practical skills. Like as a famous person meets more and more people, and gets more and more mental stimulation, they would have a better and better idea about what would be the best cleaner to use when washing dishes, or the best scrubbing technique, or the best whatever else it takes to wash dishes really well. And similarly with other mundane tasks. Like as you get more and more famous, you get smarter and smarter, and you can apply that smartness to both important and small tasks.
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        Apr 7 2013: I agree Greg, that we can apply accumulated information in many different ways, and it is insightful of you to recognize this:>)

        Many people often do not make the connection with one practice or another. They assimilate valuable information, and apply it to only one aspect of their lives. When, in fact, we have the ability to apply the same information to many different situations in our lives......good point Greg!
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          Apr 7 2013: Nice, Colleen, thanks for starting to see what I'm talking about. But people don't necessarily need to see it to do it. For example, you could take what you learned becoming Mrs. Vermont, and apply it to gardening. You could do it consciously, by really thinking about something you learned while Mrs. Vermont and applying it to gardening; or you could do it unconsciously, by applying it without realizing it. But either way, I would think many things we do shade over into other things we do. Thank goodness, right, it'd be awful if everything was locked away in its own little steel box.

          This probably ups my regard for celebrities, because even though they're known for being good at one thing, I think it shades over and helps them become better at other things. But all of us benefit from this "shading over," I think.
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        Apr 7 2013: LOL! Dear Greg, I am not "starting" to see what you are talking about. Why do you think I asked the question above..."Do you think/feel all people use this knowledge and practice?"

        I believe that to use information effectively in many different practices of the life experience, it helps to be aware. Yes...many things we do can be applied elsewhere in our life adventure, and the use of the information may be conscious or unconscious. The more aware we are, the more possibilities to apply it in many different ways:>)
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          Apr 7 2013: Yes, I'm sorry, didn't mean to misstate. I'm thinking there may be many facets of this idea that neither you nor I are aware of or have articulated yet, but maybe it's only me. To articulate an example: Let's say as you sought Mrs. Vermont, Colleen, you learned to dress better. Is it possible you could then also dress better for gardening, too, in other words dress more appropriately to the task at hand? It does seem like what stimulates us in one place in our mind "moves over" into other places, would you agree?

          It's a little hard to speak for "all people" on anything, would you agree? I probably think all people use it to some degree. For instance, one woman has learned to spice one dish wonderfully. Now when she goes to spice a new dish she has never cooked before, doesn't it seem like she's going to use what she learned from the prior dish to spice the new one, she's going to make a better educated guess about what will be the right spices on the new one. This is a little different from my first example, because in the first one I'm saying you use knowledge in rather unrelated fields to enhance each other, and in the second I'm saying you use prior knowledge in a field to do new things in the field.

          Probably I think you apply knowledge from hugely unrelated fields to each other. Like you can take what you learn from tying your shoe and apply it to writing the Great American Novel. You can take what you learn from blowing your nose, and apply it to TED conversations. (I myself blow my nose gently, and try to be gentle on TED conversations).

          Had you thought about this before it came up between us? I've thought about it a long time, but I can't remember discussing it with anyone before. Do you agree with my examples? Do you have some examples you like?
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        Apr 7 2013: That's ok Greg:>)

        I think/feel there are LOTS of things we (humans) are not yet aware of.

        As Mrs. Vermont, I didn't really learn to dress differently, because I dressed pretty good prior to that.
        Dress better for gardening??? OH my goodness! You should see me when gardening!!! Yes...I dress appropriately for the task at hand and I'm not exactly a fashion statement when in the gardens!!! LOL

        I get your point anyway. I learned to communicate better and project thoughts, feelings and ideas more clearly. I was also learning that with the acting and guest lecturing at the same time. And of course communication skills are beneficial in all aspects of life. When doing volunteer work with the dept. of corrections, I became a mediator, for example.

        Yes, I agree that we cannot speak for "all people".

        Yes, I thought about "cross training" in the life experience before we had this conversation:>) Did you? I perceive everything as interconnected, so it seems natural to me that all our experiences would also interconnect.

        I realized a long time ago that my life experiences flowed, one to the other, and what I learned in one situation often served me in other situations as well.
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          Apr 7 2013: Very nice, Colleen. But then wouldn't it make you agree more with the original statement, which was that if someone is famous, they're a better person than me. Because if they're good enough at something to be famous, we could agree that their skills in that one area flow to other areas in their life and make them good at many things, they're not idiot savants who are just good at one thing.

          I'm sure you dressed well prior, didn't you fine-tune it a little as you did those spotlight activities, like pageants and commercials?
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        Apr 7 2013: Greg,
        I do not agree with the statement that if someone is famous, they are a better person than you. I will say again.....it depends on how we use the position....how we use the information. A person could be famous, and not be a very good person because of HOW they used their fame. Another person who is NOT famous, may be a wonderful person because of HOW they use their life experiences.

        As I think we agreed....I dressed for the task at hand:>)
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          Apr 7 2013: Well, what I'm saying is the very thing they do to be famous makes them a good person, didn't we already agree that entertaining people is rendering service, too, so if, say, Tom Cruise entertains millions of people, that already says good about his character. Then you add on that almost all, or all, famous people do many charitable functions, and you get great people, don't you?

          What exactly is involved in pursuing Mrs. Vermont, Colleen, do you have to put on ball gowns and such? Maybe you were already used to putting on those elegant clothes, I guess in my life I haven't put on elegant clothes very often, such as tuxedos or even suits.
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        Apr 11 2013: I have been comfortable with different cloths my whole life Greg.....elegant, totally grubby, and everything in between. As I said before, I'm not exactly a fashion statement when in the gardens, doing carpentry, painting the house, etc. I dress for the occasion, and enjoy it all.

        When I visit other countries and cultures, I often trade my western cloths with locals, or buy cloths there because I like the feeling and experience of fitting in as much as possible. I wore a veil in Egypt and Jordan at times....very practical....kept the sun, wind and sand out of the face, and also helped me connect with local people, which I love doing:>)

        I believe it is not necessarily WHAT we do in the life experience, as HOW we do it. To me, the motivation and intent is important. Two people can have the same experience....maybe hold the same postion....be famous or not, and to me, how they/we use that opportunity is more important than the position, fame, etc.

        We have been talking about this for quite some time, and it's ok if we do not agree:>)

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