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Can God be defined?

I find that after debating with many people, many don't have a definition of what "God" is. (For even when you go to a church many people have different definitions ; and not many have a "shared definition".) And I find that many people only list Gods, but (and correct me if I am wrong) that listing gods is just like listing various variations of Meats or dogs, you still haven't told me what a "dog" or a "meat" is! Or for that matter : What "God" is!
Also on the same matter, I am genially interested, what is the definition of "existence"?
Because these two issues are vital to the debate : "Does God exist?"
And I hope this question will be taken in good spirit, and that no offence is taken.

Strongly recommend you join my debate on this ( Can we ever design an experiment which can determine whether God exist or not?) on this link : http://www.ted.com/conversations/17451/can_we_ever_design_an_experime.html
Many thanks. (SORRY TO SPAM IT TO EVERYBODY ON THIS DEBATE, JUST THOUGHT THAT YOU COULD ALL PUT SOME VALUABLE INPUT INTO THIS DISCUSSION!!!)

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Closing Statement from Bernard White

God mostly only have subjective definitions. (And very few have a "shared (objective) definition" of what "God" is!) And usually reflects the moral code of that individual! (And the society's values).
Yet God does hold many mystical properties, and is sometimes defined as emotions such as "Love", which is dependent on the human mind and relies in all of us.
While others choose to define God as being more of a "Personal God", which is external (independent) to the body, A God of intervention.
And other choose to define God as a more of a Impersonal God, one of pure logic and maths. (If I can say that!)
However I will not comment much more, due to the fact that I have a feeling I would not do a good job of it!
This is my closing comment. :D
Hope you liked it!

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    Mar 18 2013: In my opinion:
    1. Religion is a man made concept. Religion is one's own personal interpretation of their relationship to 'God';
    2. Mankind are co-creators, an outlet of an infinite intelligence seeking perfect expression;
    3. God and the Devil are two extremes of the same principle. There is no such thing as good or bad, there can only be the truth. It's your personal perception which creates your reality.
    4. Oh yeah, and whoever control's the minds of the masses either through religion, aspirations or social conditioning, controls the world!
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      Mar 19 2013: Interesting you said "religion is a man made concept" and not God. :) I would probably agree with this!
      "There is no such thing as good or bad, there can only be the truth" However if there can be objective truth, why can't there be "objective morality" (in the way there is a "right option to maximize utility or minimize pain for the most amount of people".)
      While with your fourth point : Even though religion may have a lot of "power", it doesn't stop religious high officials stop believing in God, in a odd sense (and am willing to be corrected) this is just a slight correlation of belief.
      However the major point here is : "what is God, or can you define God?". Not whether or not it exists, or is a man made concept. :)
      I hope I did not come off as being too patronizing! (For this was not my intent!) :)
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        Mar 19 2013: "Why can't there be "objective morality" "I assumed that morality was by nature objective.
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          Mar 19 2013: Many would disagree with you, and view that morality is completely subjective.
          In the way there is no way to measure "morality" (if you don't believe in utilitarianism)
          And the fact that "one man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist", while (and I might be wrong) objective morality would dictate whether the man was a freedom fighter or terrorist. (or whether he was "good" or "evil". Hope this helps. Feel that I have explained this quite badly.
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        Mar 19 2013: No Bernard, of course you don't come off as being patronizing. You raise a good point. It's strange, objectively, I would reason that belief in a God, I cannot identify, or have physical proof exists should be accepted by me as real. However, subjectively, I have a faith in something that some would call God. So I do feel, again in my opinion, that whatever you believe in can only be seen subjectively and there can only be subjective truth. When you really start to delve in to this subject and the metaphysical questions it arouses, it's a fascinating aspect. My noggin hurts just thinking it through:)
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          Mar 19 2013: Out of interest :
          What do you mean by "subjective truth", I can see how this term would work.
          I would be interested to see how you would define it! :)
          In an odd sense, I could see how there "could" (though this may be a direct contradiction of what I have just said) be objective truth and subjective morality. (Though I believe it i smoe likely that if there is objective truth, then their should be objective morality).
          Gotta admit will have to spend more time on this subject. :)
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          Apr 2 2013: Will be spamming this message to all those who I think may be interested. (I want to raise awareness) I hope nobody minds "too much" :D : (To all those on these links such as : Can we define God)
          Strongly recommend you join my debate on this ( Can we ever design an experiment which can determine whether God exist or not?) on this link : http://www.ted.com/conversations/17451/can_we_ever_design_an_experime.html
          Many thanks.
          Am always interested in your opinion. M.J. Penny, hopefully you will join this debate.

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