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Mathew Naismith

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Are science & spirituality one and the same?

I believe they are it’s just they use different deductive reasoning processors to evaluate to become further aware, what do you think?

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  • Mar 16 2013: Ok, that's an interesting question. How do you define science and spirituality? Try this out: Let's suppose there are only two relevant questions and all learning can be divided into answering these two alone. What's important and How do I get it? Science, by my definition, is the pursuit of knowledge of the physical world and does a great job of answering the second question. Spirituality is the pursuit of knowledge of ourselves and our happiness and does a great job of answering the second question.

    So if we look at it that way they are different. On the other hand if you look at HOW they do what they do, they are almost identical if done appropriately. The only significant difference is spirituality must acknowledge state of being where as science does not and hence can not answer the first question.
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      Mar 17 2013: G'day Tyler

      This is the thing, it depends on how you look at them if they are going to seem the same or not. Fiona made a good point earlier that they both are about awareness but does this make them the same? It’s a bit of a paradox because it’s a yes & no because this isn’t the only thing that makes them simular if not the same. If you take in also science derived from both philosophy & mysticism & that science probably wouldn’t be around without these two you would have to say yes they are the same but modern day science has been quite separate from these two so you would say no however I think that is changing again to a certain extent again.

      I asked a question earlier where did matter & anti-matter come from in the first place to not just create this universe but to also create a complex diverse mode of thought (thinking)? Funny enough I didn’t get an answer because surely we couldn’t blindly accept it was just there if by magic!!

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      • Mar 17 2013: haha, interesting stuff. I was looking at it from a sort of, technical how-to aspect. Does that make sense? I've always felt like when I step into my lab (i do nutritional research) or when I'm trying to understand...happiness/spirituality. I'm basically using the same procedures. Here's an exercise: Try putting the scientific method into spiritual terms. It really blew me away! Tell me what you think!
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          Mar 17 2013: G'day Tyler

          Ah I get you, it is a different way of looking at it & I wonder why the rest of us haven't looked at it in quite this way before.

          It comes down to spirituality can answer both questions but science only one but we are indeed using the same technique so why can't science answer the first question? It obviously doesn't have the capabilities as yet. I do think science one day will be able to answer the first question.

          It is funny what we do scientifically in practice is what we do in spirituality they both have the same effect just with different facets of life. This is why I love scientists who are open minded you are the future & an important part of our future but I suppose a truly open minded spiritualist is the same & like with an open minded scientists they are hard to come by.

          One more thing, if you look at psychology which is a science they are very much alike as they are both interested in one’s wellbeing mentally & spiritually. I know a lot of spiritually aware people dismiss the mind as thoughtless chatter but if it wasn’t for the mind they wouldn’t recall let’s say a mediative experience for starters I know this because I worked with disabled people for a while, some are conscious of very little of what’s around them & have no way of being aware of more than their conscious understanding allows.

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