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Mathew Naismith


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Are science & spirituality one and the same?

I believe they are it’s just they use different deductive reasoning processors to evaluate to become further aware, what do you think?


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    Mar 13 2013: I think you should have made a stab at defining your terms, especially spirituality.

    For me, being spiritual means being concerned about living a decent life, happiness, appreciating the mystery of our existence, looking up at the blazing night sky in the early quiet of the morning, engaging in something that brings joy or contentment. In other words many positive states which feed us fall under the term spiritual. What doesn't belong there is a lot of new age non-sense and the old-fashion notion of a spirit world. I also do not think there is that much overlap between spirituality and religion. What's odd to me is that many people would not consider someone like me, an atheist, to also have a spiritual dimension. I suppose that's due to the power of propaganda. I also appreciate science and think that exploring the mysteries of nature through science can be a spiritual endeavor. So, for me, science is not equal to spiritually, but can fall within its domain just as art can.
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      Mar 13 2013: After reading your comment, I looked up "spirituality" and read that modern usage of that term separates it from religion, not in the sense that they cannot coexist for someone but that spirituality is a broader concept than the belief in a religion. While you may not include New Age ideas in your own ideas, it seems that in modern usage, New Age and ancient spirit-connected beliefs as well as Eastern philosophical approaches to your questions fit within spirituality.

      There is nothing to prevent a scientist from considering herself spiritual. Scientists can be in love also. Scientists are not calculators and have a whole range of human traits!
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        Mar 13 2013: Understand, I am not surprised modern usage would differ, and is why I would not label myself as spiritual without elaborating. I find the word to be too vague unless I know something about the person using it. Would be interesting to see the range of definitions if everyone here defined the term, especially those who label themselves such.
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      Mar 13 2013: G'day Peter

      In a debate if I defined spirituality to one or two facets that would also have diminished the overall view of the discussion to one or two variables which I didn’t want as I wanted views on all angles to do with this discussion.

      I don’t personally go with all this fairy land hoogly-boogly stuff but can I prove it exists or doesn’t exist so all I can do is personally go by my own personal judgment & likes & dislikes like you.

      With me personally I look at myself as being spiritually aware & haven’t labelled myself a spiritualist as there is a huge difference between the two. To me spirituality is everything not just the hoogly-boogly stuff including physical life that so many spiritually aware people detest which I find strange because they are really also detesting a part of their spiritual selves by doing so.


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