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Is a shadow a three-dimensional object? I am proposing that we are 3 "objects" in one being. We are the light, the body and the shadow
A shadow is a 3d object, because we live in a 3d world right?
So that means they have, length, width, height, volume and mass?
And the body is just "shadow" or matter that reflects light, like a mirror, or the moon
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natasha nikulina 50+
Is shadow an object ?
Shadow doesn't exist without a 3D object; it doesn't have its own length and width, but is the distorted image of 3D object. Can we say that shadow is the 4th dimension of 3D object ? So, 3D object with shadow is a 4D object, that is an image of 3D object which is an image of 2D object ( field of information, maybe ) , which is an image of 1D object ( have no idea what it is ) which is the image of something else ? So, our collective mind inhabits the shadow of a shadow of a shadow...and makes it real.
Does it make sense ? :)
Ed Schulte 50+
To me the first approach would be to recognize ...Fully...the experience/existence of Non-reflected light ...it is "us" before any material "us" light. Non-refekected light is self eliminated and therefore it and all images associated within have no shadow.
natasha nikulina 50+
Could you tell more about "the experience/existence of Non-reflected light ..." ?
Thanks !
Casey Christofaris 10+
Check out this video
http://www.ted.com/talks/john_lloyd_an_animated_tour_of_the_invisible.html
Ed Schulte 50+
is to just close you eyes and visualize ...something and thing ...note the quality and characteristics of the light in that visualization...is there any shadows there?
With conscious and consistent / love guided / observation practice ...you will also note that the quality of this light shifts in direct proportion to your relaxing and observing. Some say it becomes" more jewel like" ...another way of describing its "Self-eluminated" - ness. IOW Non-reflected....the light of the "origin" or "source" itself.
further note
just watched BBC's The History of Russian Art" and reminded that this is the 100 anniversary of Kandisky's Painting No. 7 ....and the lead up to The Black Square. Living proof that "Back-ness" (( so called by the corporeal mind)) is the source of light
natasha nikulina 50+
" Black Square" is a kind of aschatological object ; the end is the beginning, the light is there, not yet reflected... OR/ AND.... the " Living proof that "Back-ness" (( so called by the corporeal mind)) is the source of light "
iow. he who knows does not speak.
Jackson Pollock and Kandinskiy are my favourites, the most accurate/rich reflection of light before/after rising into radiant darkness, Non-reflected light !
Thankus !
Ed Schulte 50+
there is a "place" in the journey to Noetic which the sUfi call "Luminous Black" and it is very very real and very beyond description in words....Henry Corbin discusses it in his "Man of Light" / Iranian Sufism ....one could say it is the outer limits of ones' HUman BEing-ness ability to enter the Noetical.
I for one believe that Malevich was after that "place" the time period would fit the expansion of consciousness happening in Europe ....there have been many attempts at on the edge black ...good stuff :-)
and Yes!!! to ThankUs!!
Casey Christofaris 10+
The path that I chose leads to one or 2 ends the 1)is death normally suicide and 2) insanity..... luckily for me I was able to figure out a way to give up choice/ego in a very weird way I got a DUI that I wasnt drunk or intoxicated but lead me to spending 5 days in jail ...an a true prison. One that was created by men for men. That was the best thing that could ever happen to me
natasha nikulina 50+
Every 'thing' is what it is and what it is not, otherwise there is no thing, 'nothing' To be in only the light, in 'no time' zone means not 'to be '
Can we be and not be simultaneously ? In fact, we always are.
"HUman BEing-ness ability to enter the Noetical " is probably the effort to bring to 'to be' something from ' not be ' ...
My language capacity betrays me :)
edited
Luminous Black is the recognition of Radiant Light ' like is known by like ' .
Ed Schulte 50+
yes as "dimension-ality" increases 4th , 5th 6th time/space are not. then Only existence is
natasha nikulina 50+
"I couldn't follow that at all. The professor was talking about rotating 8-dimensional objects! How am I supposed to visualize something rotating in 8 dimensions?"
"Easy," replied the other student, "you visualize it rotating in N dimensions, then let N go to 8."
—old joke :)
Hi, Ed !
Did i understand you right ? :)
Nathan Cook
Casey Christofaris 10+
natasha nikulina 50+
Reflected light creates shadow and it has a kind of will of its own it may be bigger or smaller, than the 3D object, it projects. A shadow is distorted image of the source.
Or ...just everyday experience : In a shadow of a big house a tree doesn't cast shadow.
So, in the shadow there are no shadows either.
It means that the absence of shadow unites two opposites : the light and the darkness, they are one. Be-ing divides one into two and resides in indeterminate zone, in between.
Just thoughts :)
natasha nikulina 50+
It may mean that the light of the "origin" or "source" itself is not patterned hence can't be perceived and understood. It is not even ' light' in usual sense, as well as a moment is not a moment in ' no time zone ' There is no chance for rational mind to enter there.
Anything that can be understood gains a shadow of 'not quite true' When multiplied by the centuries of scientific exploration " not quite true' becomes utterly untrue.
On the other hand what can be untrue for Absolute Truth? By the end of rational exploration we come to the irrational values of love..., dream, intent , idea of oneness that must be irrationally embraced. It's how the world really works.
So, we end where we started ...
Casey Christofaris 10+
natasha nikulina 50+
To avoid the shadow of language ambiguity here, just an example : a human mind captured in its own strong belief system is under the illusion/ image/ shadow of truth, while open mind reflects the light and sees shadows, that light creates... so it is aware that what it sees may look true enough, but it's not the Truth.
Does my example has any relevance to what you meant ? :)
Casey Christofaris 10+
What would Jesus do?
He would try to relate to the person, whether from his personal experiences or from someone else’s experiences/knowledge (parable). And respond with knowledge/wisdom that he would want to hear if it was he who came to them for help.
That’s what Jesus would do.
Do on to others as you would have them do on to you.
If you imply this concept to the most fundamental parts of life you would have intuition.
The hardest part about this is how do you relate to a person so it comes off as if the knowledge is from them selves. This is why is hard to do the "do unto others as you would have then do unto you" The answer has to be common sense. Not to the person (in this case Jesus) but to the other. It has to be their common sense not his.
"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, who said it, no matter if I said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense." ~ Siddhartha Gautama, founder of Buddhism
natasha nikulina 50+
Sanity would just lead to the alienation from the society, in some sense. But what one would be alienated from is inane insane and dangerous.
So, maybe the third way should be preferred .
What did you get there, in jail , if you don't mind me asking.
Thank you !
Casey Christofaris 10+
The interesting thing about all of this is sometimes its ok. So I was coming to grips with the hell that I created and was living in "in this reality" everything and everyone became a prison to me. That I could not except(except for the other 2 ways to escape) But then I actually went to jail and was put in a man made prison. Where the hell that I was walking through in this life "reality" wasn't even close to the hell those people were living in I met a man that got duck taped and beaten with a baseball bat by his parents. I don't even want to imagine what that hell has to feel like to do that to my child so much hate in their hearts. And the whole time all this guy wanted was to be excepted. But in an effort to make his friends like him, all he was really doing was hurting him self.
Casey Christofaris 10+
natasha nikulina 50+
It is only when we stop choosing that we begin to exercise free will.
And maybe it will set you free and show the way back to the Garden. The hell is gradually disappearing with the dieing of undernourished ego :)
"Only he who looses his life shall find it "
It's about the death of ego, what is 'it' that shall be found ?
I have never met anyone who managed, but i know some ( very few ) who are on the path. The most successful ones are those who don't even know that they are on the path.
Are you sure that your ego is not haunting you ?
It's the nature of the dual world we inhabit : the higher you go the deeper abyss is challenging you.
The brighter the fire is, the more darkness it reveals.
We have a fear of looking inward to ourselves because we sense that is where all the
contradictions flow together.
'What is the evidence of your Father in you?' say to them, 'It is motion and rest.'"
Thanks for your story !
The people's stories we don't know is what our unconsciousness is made of and we do share it.
Thank you !
Casey Christofaris 10+
Casey Christofaris 10+
When you make it through he will stop tell you to look at the journey you just made and show you it was YOUR eye you walked through. (this is why I have no more fear)
Why do men judge men?
I had to believe in Jesus the man, to believe in Casey the man
Casey Christofaris 10+
Do know what it means to look through the world as the ultimate observer?
"Remember we are mirrors unto each other; that which you see in me is the projection of something you most need to recognize within yourself."
Casey Christofaris 10+
Unconditional love means holding someone's hand while they are traveling through there own personal hell (and you might be as well), and not giving up on them, and reminding them everything will get better. I will never let go of your hand and to anyone who has felt like I have I am sorry, just reach out and I will be there