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Is a shadow a three-dimensional object? I am proposing that we are 3 "objects" in one being. We are the light, the body and the shadow

A shadow is a 3d object, because we live in a 3d world right?

So that means they have, length, width, height, volume and mass?

And the body is just "shadow" or matter that reflects light, like a mirror, or the moon

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  • Mar 29 2013: A shadow does encompass 3 dimensions which is definitely a shape.
  • Mar 15 2013: mass and a shadows are not the same thing at all but i get what your trying to say yes our own body has millions to trillions of shadows on the dermis because light will cause a shadow onto the skin behind it (even if we cannot see it) where the light is hitting the skin and not on the flesh behind it but light doesn't go all the way through us so the shadow behind us is just the lack of light that is hitting us on the opposite side of it and yes i get how we see atoms light bounces off of it at a certain frequency or wave and because of these different "frequencies" we see color and i'm not sure exactly what it's reflecting off of perhaps it doesn't even physically touch it but just gets rebounded by a electrical or radioactive force the truth is light and color is just figments of our imagination made by our brain interpreting signals
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      Mar 16 2013: Its realizing that everything is refection of self, even when things are not "self reflective". The material world is a "mirror" reflecting light back out at you. Its realizing its your own light that is is shining back at you for you reflect self. You are shining light out as it comes into you. Its realizing that all past life's, all current life, and all future life is you. It's realizing that you are death yourself. That you are both judge and executioner. It realizing that all of this was created to figure out existence on some fundamental way. Its realizing that all gods have been saying that we are one, when even they did not know fully the implications. Because it is hard to counter something that can counter your every move. Which is just you. It realizing that how ever you want to define this reality it is "real" and yet as "fake" as the heavens we have been promised. Its realizing that we are the equal but opposite reaction to the gods. And if this reality did not exist that reality would not exist. For we created each other, because we are co-creators.
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    Mar 11 2013: Fractional dimension explained= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-csmdpq39A
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      Mar 11 2013: So yes it would seem that a shadow would fit quite nicely as a being in a "fractal" dimension of space.
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      Mar 12 2013: But every thing is "shadow" right except light
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    Mar 11 2013: You mention 2 dimensions and 3 dimensions but what about fractal dimensions?
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      Mar 11 2013: Need more info.... can you explain more to what you mean ....I will study more ...it there a ted talk about it or just the 2 ones about fractals them self
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      Mar 11 2013: real quick this sounds like my "is our math wrong" conversation...... since all units of measurement are arbitrary ....where do we start?
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      Mar 11 2013: Sorry keep reading more and getting questions or ideas ......are you saying that a shadow functions in fractal dimensions ....makes sense to me
      • Mar 12 2013: Spaces get very high-dimensional, very fast. But fractal remains 2D, anything more than that can be visualized in N dimensions. 2D fractal is like entire system in a single point, where the third dimension is volume of increased probability of density. That's the idea of fractal , it shows self similarity on different scales. Nature is fractal, no need to multiply extra dimensions here or it can be seen as extra dimensions, it's the matter of choice.
        Hence the joke, i've posted to Ed, who suggests : "as "dimension-ality" increases 4th , 5th 6th time/space are not. then Only existence is "

        Just thoughts :)
      • Mar 14 2013: That's maybe true.
        The question arises, where do we get this belief from , instantly ... to make it real ?
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          Mar 14 2013: "god created it for us so we could "understand" his perspective. Because that's all anyone can do it give their perspective.

          This all got created because we reflect self .....which is just god we reflect god/light ....which is why we are created in his imagine. And if you take the biblical route women was created from man because we man/women come from one and are each other's equal but opposite reaction to self. Since we came from the same "self"
      • Mar 14 2013: Yes.., and i am that one/many anyone to give my perspective :
        "god created it for us ..."
        God is creating it for Itself instantly and 'explore' different perspectives through anyone/everything.
        I mean not only humans are involved, but everything/anything in its own unique way is ITS image.
        I can't say i understand it, just stand under :)

        " the light came into being by itself, established [itself], and appeared in their image."

        "Time is the theatre of God's becoming "
        I am comfortable with ' resonance ', standing under , i don't push it to understanding.
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          Mar 14 2013: Can you explain more

          "Time is the theatre of God's becoming "
          I am comfortable with ' resonance ', standing under , i don't push it to understanding.
      • Mar 15 2013: " Standingunder' is Sufi's word/notion, Ed Schulte mentioned it once and i had this ' Bingo ! ' click in my mind, that's what i have sometimes - ' standingunder'.
        It means that i don't understand " Time is the theater of God's becoming " rationally or i do, but i need tuns of words to explain what i understand.. It's like ' the seer is the seen ' , you have a picture, that resonates with what you may call truth, it has this quality of authenticity. Like here : Time is the moving image of Eternity "
        And you know, the bigger the picture the lower the resolution. If i zoom in and try to grasp it rationally , in details i am loosing the picture . In a way ' standingunder VS understanding ", but the bright side of it is that you can recognise the pattern via the law of correspondence or fractals. Maybe i don't understand..., but i have something to measure my understanding of many other things.

        I have serious doubts that it's helpful, unless you know from your own experience what i am talking about :)
        • Mar 15 2013: Hi nn

          Yes "a-prior"

          known before all "coming into form."

          After all we are that which we are observing as "coming into form" as all level of the "theatre of God" This was Avicenna pointer in that link the other day.

          Be Well Be Present
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          Mar 15 2013: Do you know what it means to look through the would as the ultimate observer?
      • Mar 16 2013: ' ultimate OBSERVER must be someone in the closest position ever possible to the OBSERVED.
        ' would ' is the clearest vision of ' will be' as a certainty.
        Is it humanly possible ?
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          Mar 19 2013: Yes, but I would not recommend it without guidance and I am not sure I could help you via internet
      • Mar 29 2013: Is it a special technique ?
        Could you tell, at least something ?

        Thank you !
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          Mar 30 2013: Its not a special technique, its coming to realize a lot of truths. I don't think I could consciously do it over the internet maybe with skype...maybe.

          But once again I have a hard time going into exact detail because it is both a journey inward as well as a "physical world journey". And without the right coping skills, you could spiral out of control. Either become extremely suicidal or loose sense of reality. This is why I have a hard time guiding you or mentoring you on this path. It is not something I would recommend for everyone and truthfully I am not sure anyone should do it, it was a path that i chose freely and willingly. That being said I am only telling you this because; I respect you very much. And believe you have a very strong grasp of reality, while realizing a lot of other truths.


          Re-read this and trying to realize all of the implications that it is saying not just the words:
          Its realizing that everything is refection of self, even when things are not "self reflective". The material world is a "mirror" reflecting light back out at you. Its realizing its your own light that is is shining back at you for you reflect self. You are shining light out as it comes into you. Its realizing that all past life's, all current life, and all future life is you. It's realizing that you are death yourself. That you are both judge and executioner. It realizing that all of this was created to figure out existence on some fundamental way. Its realizing that all gods have been saying that we are one, when even they did not know fully the implications. Because it is hard to counter something that can counter your every move. Which is just you. It realizing that how ever you want to define this reality it is "real" and yet as "fake" as the heavens we have been promised. Its realizing that we are the equal but opposite reaction to the gods. And if this reality did not exist that reality would not exist. For we created each other, because we are co-creators.
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          Mar 30 2013: Also where did you get the image is 0 from? At the time that you wrote it it just made sense to me, but I was wondering if you had more information on this?

          My email address cs3@email.com if you want to email me directly
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          Mar 30 2013: I guess if there was one technique I would recommend if you already are not it would be gain level 3 Reiki. You definitely need be able to work with your own energy, because it will "wake' up your whole body.
      • Mar 31 2013: "...where did you get the image is 0 from?"
        Image is imaginative facility, is no proof that i know what i am talking about.
        Knowing can be described as seeing ' no things'
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      Mar 10 2013: If you're referring to the physical body as the shadow created by our spiritual light, considering it to be 3d is still a misnomer as we, as a humanity are beings capable of engaging in 'higher' (other) dimensions far beyond that which we experience as '3d/physical'.

      That is true but with the finding of the higgs everything but light is mass, iipso facto so is air and shadow. Otherwise we would not have mass....which truly we still dont know where mass comes from, because is the higgs is that base of all mass! Where does it get it mass from?

      Also I am not peter pan so I can not just mail you a shadow... which would refert my argument that we are 3 bodys in one .....much like the holy trinity... light/god, body/jc, shadow/evil (which is just the opposite reaction to light)
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          Mar 14 2013: What if I already went through the awakening process. What if I already exist with in the Christ Consciousness because I know we are one and that any form of separation in not "real" just visual holograms/hallucination. Now what if I tell you we not me but we the human race can figure out existence. What if the path that was my choice and of course I asked for permission first, that I asked to become the second coming. What if that means I know how to end poverty. Create peace that everyone would agree with. What if this is the path that I chose. What if that means I had to realize that I had to walk through my own personal hell (red sea) that I created..and I knowingly and fully chose to. What if I can feel every pulse of energy that runs through my body. What if when I am around an "energy vampire" I floor them to the ground with how much energy I am pumping out. What if that mean I can connect the dots of life using logic reasoning and religion. Now if you believe in QP how could anything outside of the atom have 3 dimensions what if having 3 dimensions it gives us an outward expression of in inward process which is the holy trinity. What if all of this is true and what if it makes me no different from you?
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          Mar 14 2013: If a MAN asked you to walk through the eye of hell with him and he say's he will get you through to the other side. He say's he will hold your hand the whole time but you will never see it, he will be your strength but you will have to carry the burden. He will be your guide but you will have to follow. Would you believe him?

          When you make it through he will stop tell you to look at the journey you just made and show you it was YOUR eye you walked through.

          Why do men judge men?


          I had to believe in Jesus the man
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          Mar 14 2013: Its realizing that everything is refection of self, even when things are not "self reflective". The material world is a "mirror" reflecting light back out at you. Its realizing its your own light that is is shining back at you for you reflect self. You are shining light out as it comes into you. Its realizing that all past life's, all current life, and all future life is you. It's realizing that you are death yourself. That you are both judge and executioner. It realizing that all of this was created to figure out existence on some fundamental way. Its realizing that all gods have been saying that we are one, when even they did not know fully the implications. Because it is hard to counter something that can counter your every move. Which is just you. It realizing that how ever you want to define this reality it is "real" and yet as "fake" as the heavens we have been promised. Its realizing that we are the equal but opposite reaction to the gods. And if this reality did not exist that reality would not exist. For we created each other, because we are co-creators.

          Do know what it means to look through the world as the ultimate observer?
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          Mar 14 2013: See that the best thing about these ted conversation. It actually makes more sense that everything including the "3d" material world is in fact 2d fractal dimension

          Specially after talking to people like your self
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      Mar 10 2013: Your further dimensions that you seek I can assume by your pic is false and man made "level" if you think we are one you need to realize that all l"levels" just like "values" are defined by man... Not "god"

      So get rid of you separate dimensions and realize that all dimensions are one, and that you are one with god and man has always been
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          Mar 14 2013: : Its realizing that everything is refection of self, even when things are not "self reflective". The material world is a "mirror" reflecting light back out at you. Its realizing its your own light that is is shining back at you for you reflect self. You are shining light out as it comes into you. Its realizing that all past life's, all current life, and all future life is you. It's realizing that you are death yourself. That you are both judge and executioner. It realizing that all of this was created to figure out existence on some fundamental way. Its realizing that all gods have been saying that we are one, when even they did not know fully the implications. Because it is hard to counter something that can counter your every move. Which is just you. It realizing that how ever you want to define this reality it is "real" and yet as "fake" as the heavens we have been promised. Its realizing that we are the equal but opposite reaction to the gods. And if this reality did not exist that reality would not exist. For we created each other, because we are co-creators.

          Do know what it means to look through the world as the ultimate observer?


          Thanks I took you picture as a person who is serious about figuring out existence and want to create a world of peace. I did not presume anything bad about you, and if came off that way I am sorry..... I have been traveling thought that (red sea) for about 6 to 8 month now. So if any of my aggression came off in a negative way I am sorry for that and meant no harm to your being. I was not trying to attack you or your character.


          "Remember we are mirrors unto each other; that which you see in me is the projection of something you most need to recognize within yourself."
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          Mar 14 2013: If religion is self fulfilling, and science is self refuting. Both end up with the same answer. Why does the path matter when there is an infinite/eternity amount of paths that can could would will and have already happened that all lead to the same answer....we are one
  • Mar 8 2013: Apparently your argument is that since we live in a 3d world, nothing can be 2D... Basically yes, as far as as know, anything that exists is made of atoms or subatomic particles, but I have news for you: A shadow do not exist in the physical world! Shadows are just interpretations our brain makes out of the patterns of light reaching our eyes.
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      Mar 9 2013: so is the material world!!

      Its realizing that everything is refection of self, even when things are not "self reflective". The material world is a "mirror" reflecting light back out at you. Its realizing its your own light that is is shining back at you for you reflect self. You are shining light out as it comes into you. Its realizing that all past life's, all current life, and all future life is you. It's realizing that you are death yourself. That you are both judge and executioner. It realizing that all of this was created to figure out existence on some fundamental way. Its realizing that all gods have been saying that we are one, when even they did not know fully the implications. Because it is hard to counter something that can counter your every move. Which is just you. It realizing that how ever you want to define this reality it is "real" and yet as "fake" as the heavens we have been promised. Its realizing that we are the equal but opposite reaction to the gods. And if this reality did not exist that reality would not exist. For we created each other, because we are co-creators. ~ Unknown
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      Mar 9 2013: Its actually why the eye needs to flip the "mirrored" light reaching your eye. Which is then flipped again by the brain to counter the mirror effect
      • Mar 9 2013: Casey.
        If we are shining light out, where does the light come from? And does or is the light carrying information we don't have, but we somehow know how to decrypt?

        Where images in the mind/brain/eye are seen, is completely dark, without light.
        So, consciousness is, "let there be light?" and we are, as what existed or just was/is, before what was/is, came into being. Complete and utter blackness, which is the complete absorption of light. Yes?

        How close or far away am I?

        So our brains are photons, empty but able to decrypt light and reflect it back so that we see externally, what we see internally, but it is all just thoughts, which don't exist per se, but only burst in and out of existence. Yes?

        I'm lost.
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          Mar 11 2013: matter is an outward expression of an inward process....like a place holder for thought
  • Mar 8 2013: Casey, George, Gordon, and Lawren have shown us that slightly different comments can have helpful and truthful aspects. That's interesting in itself.
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    Mar 8 2013: A shadow is a 3d object, as it extends in 3 dimensions beyond the object causing the shadow, although we're usually only aware of the shadow when it lands onto another object to be plainly visible.

    However, a shadow is just the absence of light, so it does not have mass. It's just a volume of space.
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      Mar 8 2013: And that "volume of space" has no mass it must certainly be effected by gravity
      • Mar 9 2013: Space has mass however by making a shadow you are removing photons which are mass-less so gravity is unchanged
    • Mar 9 2013: You are correct in that a shadow appears to have three dimensions but it can only be observed as a plane.
      For example, a lunar eclipse is the moon entering the shadow of the earth. The cone of the shadow is in 3 dimensions but the shadow is only realized as a 2d plane (the moon's surface)
      I might therefore hypothesize that the shadow is a plane that is translated across the third dimension without ever interacting with it.
  • Mar 8 2013: No , a shadow is the projection of a 3d object onto a plane. It has no thickness, just width and breadth. The projection of a n-dimensional object is always n-1 dimensions in size.
    The projection of a plane on a line is a point, the projection of a 3d object is a plane, the projection of a 4d object is a hypercube (in 3d). I've never figured out the mathematical proof for it but it seems a good hypothesis
  • Apr 6 2013: it looks as though you have answered you r question. I guess it cant.
  • Apr 6 2013: yes but if you are talking about a single star it being the single and only object no it would not cast a shadow ever even when light is reflected back because there is nothing to cast a shadow upon
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      Apr 6 2013: except that we would now have in theory 2 in a very odd and counter intuitive way 2 light sources the one going out and the one coming back in

      That would cast a shadow right?
      • Apr 7 2013: no
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          Apr 7 2013: Ok so now lets times that time infinity, since a star does not just shine in one direction. So now we have infinite amount of rays as well as multiple array of light most likely the whole spectrum going out and the whole spectrum coming back in times infinity. That should produce an infinite amount of shadows.....also 2 separate sources of light meeting in to one spot would created a shadow on the opposite side of the sun
      • Apr 8 2013: it's the same light and brightness all the way through even if photons could produce a shadow on the exact opposite side of the atom since there are many atoms on all sides of it there cannot be any shadow anywhere but also since light emits in all directions how can light source have a shadow could you produce a shadow onto a lightbulb if you had two of the exact same brightness bulbs next to each other? (no is the answer)
  • Mar 29 2013: We are three things, mind, body and soul. Light is just part of the spectrum that two of our senses can detect. Shadow is just an effect the cause would be an object blocking lights path. The space the shadow encompasses can be volumetric but that will be there regardless if a shadow is present or not.
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      Apr 4 2013: Would a single star cast a shadow
      • Apr 6 2013: no
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          Apr 6 2013: So when the light travels back to its source how would that single star interpret it own light coming back to it's self?

          "Well I would trust that the Dean is educated enough to understand Einstein's point that any ray of light ( a straight line ) send out will eventually return to its origin and therefore he would understand that there are no "straight lines"" ~Ed Schulte
  • Mar 29 2013: A shadow is absence of light which encompasses 3 dimensions in space but is not an object it self. The only mass present would be the atmosphere and r what ever dust particles are present. Colors are just reflections of light.
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      Apr 4 2013: What's your current understanding of mass...please leave gravity out of the definition
      • Apr 4 2013: well...energy is equal to it times light squared..right?
      • Apr 4 2013: how does my understanding of mass relate to shadows. actually i wouldnt even know how to use that equation in practical matter. i just know energy equals mass times light squared.so my mass would be my weight the more dense the more mass per cubic measurement, then what multiply it by the speed of light squared?then the outputis energy. that would be my highest possible energy output? i dont know ... i probly sound stupid now... thats my current understanding of mass i guess
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          Apr 5 2013: You don't need to relate it to shadow relate it to existence. So like with celestial body's we use the universal law of gravity. To figure out the mass of say our earth. But that realize on attraction so could we small scale that? Does any two body's have attraction? Could my left hand and my right hand have an attraction to each other since they are 2 separate things even though they are attached me a singular? And then what keeps my cells together in the shape that they are in? Is it attraction or choice?

          http://www.ted.com/talks/john_lloyd_an_animated_tour_of_the_invisible.html

          We know really nothing about mass and really nothing about gravity why would we use the 2 to describe the other
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          Apr 5 2013: What is energy? And why can a shadow move faster then light?
      • Apr 5 2013: how does it move faster than light?energy is a general term.it comes in many forms and can be transformed amplified and equalised.
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          Apr 5 2013: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faster-than-light

          Truth is I don't know why it moves faster then light. But since no information is carried on a shadow, just reflected like how our moon reflects light it is pushed under the carpet.

          I believe in layman terms E=mc2, is saying all that is energy is mass, all that is mass is energy.
      • Apr 6 2013: i read through the link and just like in other areas i got sidetracked by blue link after blue link. i still dont get where it says shadow being faster than light.
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          Apr 6 2013: Heres another link

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow

          The farther the distance from the object blocking the light to the surface of projection, the larger the silhouette (they are considered proportional). Also, if the object is moving, the shadow cast by the object will project an image with dimensions (length) expanding proportionally faster than the object's own rate of movement. The increase of size and movement is also true if the distance between the object of interference and the light source are closer. This, however, does not mean the shadow may move faster than light, even when projected at vast distances, such as light years. The loss of light, which projects the shadow, will move towards the surface of projection at light speed.
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          Apr 6 2013: Oh and please join me in the ted conversation

          http://www.ted.com/conversations/17185/do_we_really_see_live_in_3_di.html
  • Mar 23 2013: but even you would agree that you have found the answer to life right?
  • Mar 21 2013: nobody can take down your belief system because you have a irrational answer to everything
  • Mar 20 2013: you don't use any of existence religion is nothing science is the only real world thing i have a very open mind and look at everything and the things that contradict make irrrational claims and have no proof for any of their information are not real but only a concept developed in the minds of fanatics like yourself
  • Mar 18 2013: ok when you say the answer im guessing you mean after life before life the important stuff like that and even then they still are not the same in any way
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      Mar 18 2013: Kinda you have to be able to take their information and make it make sense to you. Like reincarnation, I can make that make sense to you because of science.

      So can energy be created? No
      Can energy be destroyed? No again
      So what does energy do? It changes it infinite form, that is the same idea as reincarnation.

      You did think that it was a sweet idea that we might be in a brain and that science is try to "prove" this right? But clearly you also think that it is a waste of money and time and could be spent figuring out lets say more important stuff right?
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      Mar 18 2013: But also like think like why is it ok for Muslims to have 2 wives. It was a law created because of war there were more women then men. Part of the Islamic tradition or laws or customs is to produce children and women who dont are actually looked down upon. So as long as the husband treats both women equally then he can have more then one wife. Do I agree with sure I do but you might not does it make it wrong no
      • Mar 20 2013: sorry man i've given up on trying to make sense and explain to you why you're crazy and think of things in the wrong way but i cannot because your so narrow minded to your belief
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          Mar 20 2013: Thats interesting you think I am near minded but you are more then welcome to think this, you want to use science and science only. And I want to use all of existence to explain existence.
  • Mar 18 2013: and also i'm not to sure how you can apply the scientific method to religion? wouldn't that not show you how wrong they are? how can you still believe in them with that knowledge?
  • Mar 18 2013: well yes to you it's truth but to the rest of the human race it is insanity and yeah i totally agree i would hate to be anything like everyone else they're all weirdos hahaha
    and even if that was true there would never be able to prove it it's just as likely that the neurons in our own brain having a universe iside but no i haven't heard about it but i think it's worthless to research that there are plenty of other things to be discovering and disproving although that would be pretty Sweet!
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      Mar 18 2013: It would be pretty sweet if we were inside of a brain? And yes it is within the realm of possibility that a neuron in our own brain has a universe inside.


      Oh yeah there are more then a few weirdos out there
  • Mar 18 2013: you have a very unusual mind my friend i fear it's so abstract that it is irrational
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      Mar 18 2013: Sorry bro I only deal in truth.....but I guess I should thank you because why would I want to think like everyone else.

      Have you heard science is trying to prove we are in a "brain" it was a through the Wormhole episode on Science network. Have you heard about this? Whats your thoughts?
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      Mar 18 2013: Check out this video if you haven't already ...since this one could say he has a few screws loose

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Y5bXdx5UrE

      oh and it long but I think you will definitely get some useful knowledge from it.
  • Mar 17 2013: im sorry buddy but if you believe you are christ reincarnate or a part of christ's mind in any way you are a delusional fanatic and nothing i will say will sink in the only way man is ever connected is through our DNA which still is never connected to each other when we are alive you do not have a christ consciousness you do not emit energy and you are not a vampire you would actually be a perfect example in another debate im having about wether or not religion is the route of irrationality and delusion please can you just be the human you are? you are nothing more if you are then prove it
    me im an engineer i study all forms of knowledge because i enjoy it i could disprove your entire religion and have done it before this is because i know science is the only way we will ever be connected and only then will our species become gods religion is a construct if the mind putting irration thoughts in place of what you do not know instead of saying "i do not know" listen to science my friend replace your fanaticism with a fanaticism in science it is the only true answer in the universe not one made up by some fanatical uneducated farmers thousands of years ago
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      Mar 17 2013: Actually I say that you were also christ reincarnateed as well as the over all consciousness/energy

      here watch this video

      Might help put together some of the pieces that I have not been able to fill in for you
      http://www.ted.com/talks/john_lloyd_an_animated_tour_of_the_invisible.html

      If dna is what connects us whats with these folks are they alien?

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple-stranded_DNA

      Maybe you should learn more science
      e=Mc2 = reincarnation
      • Mar 17 2013: ok so i can live with it if you think we are all a small part of the "christ consciousness" but even if that was so we are not connected in any way and never have been EVER
        ok also i watched the video and in te talk he assumes all of these things that we don't know and outs some irrationalities behind all of them why cant we just say we don't know? we are a very primitive species so primitive in fact that we still have a tail and hair on our bodies from when we were animals and many other primitive parts we are just a stupid species irrational and dumb we have only had modern science for about 100 years and in that time we have disproven all religions as just primitive man making the best out of what he does not understand in any way
        and really? i looked at the 3 stranded dna thing it isn't even real it was a hypothesis on how our DNA looked it has never existed so no maybe you should learn the art of deduction and reason because your science is wrong my friend
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      Mar 17 2013: Oh and the religion that I believe in is all of them ....including science so please disprove me
      • Mar 17 2013: how can you do that? almost every religion proclaims that the other ones are false so you have basically taken on a religion that contradicts itself on every possible level and i could but since you said all of them i can't if it was just christianity i easily could because i've done it many times before
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          Mar 18 2013: I apply the scientific method to religion and assume that they are all true and all false. Even the ones that say there is no religion.
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          Mar 18 2013: Is that not what science teaches us?
  • Mar 17 2013: ok once again the human body does not emit light in any possible way the reason you see yourself in a mirror is a lightbulb (or the sun) sends light down and it bounces and disperses almost everywhere and it bounces off the mirror and back into your eye i seriously don't get where this self emitting light idea is coming from? if you emitted your own light you could see yourself in a pitch black room but you cannot and science is not philosophy, philosophy uses science to improve it's self not the other way around and i do not get this bottom part no one has lived all lives we are all individuals with no brain connection outside of our own body no body can ever and has ever lived someone else's life and the source of light is from the source of light (lightbulb or sun) and haha the reason you see yourself in glass is light is reflecting off it into your eyes i really truly don't get what your idea of light is do you do know how light works right? i could bring up an article for you or something? or are you just doing some deep hippy philosophical stuff here? haha oh and also no one can ever reach a god consciousness we are simply limited to our feeble human brains there is nothing more in your life all that you will ever be and have been is your brain nothing more there is no connection outside yourself
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      Mar 17 2013: Sorry you dont emit your own light like you glow in the dark. The light the shines into reflects back out of you. Does that make more sense
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      Mar 17 2013: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science

      Check out section on history of science. It "science" started as philosophy....and technically nothing is our side of the mind
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      Mar 17 2013: Actually no one know how light actually works. Or electricity. People like to say they know but we dont
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      Mar 17 2013: What if I already went through the awakening process. What if I already exist with in the Christ Consciousness because I know we are one and that any form of separation in not "real" just visual holograms/hallucination. Now what if I tell you we not me but we the human race can figure out existence. What if the path that was my choice and of course I asked for permission first, that I asked to become the second coming. What if that means I know how to end poverty. Create peace that everyone would agree with. What if this is the path that I chose. What if that means I had to realize that I had to walk through my own personal hell (red sea) that I created..and I knowingly and fully chose to. What if I can feel every pulse of energy that runs through my body. What if when I am around an "energy vampire" I floor them to the ground with how much energy I am pumping out. What if that mean I can connect the dots of life using logic reasoning and religion. Now if you believe in QP how could anything outside of the atom have 3 dimensions what if having 3 dimensions it gives us an outward expression of in inward process which is the holy trinity. What if all of this is true and what if it makes me no different from you?
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      Mar 17 2013: If religion is self fulfilling, and science is self refuting. Both end up with the same answer. Why does the path matter when there is an infinite/eternity amount of paths that can could would will and have already happened that all lead to the same answer....we are one
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      Mar 17 2013: Sorry I am not a hippy...I am just a guy trying to figure out existence ...what are you?
  • Mar 16 2013: what do you mean your own light? your body emits no light it just gets a reflected beam of the light source and for that whole philosophical idea it's pretty interesting to think of the world like that but it is simply not true the world is only what your mind makes of it that's true but there are many minds all living together not your individual making it up you are simply perceiving what information you are getting according to the perception you were raised with
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      Mar 17 2013: Would the source light be your own? And your body does emit light if it didn't you would not see your own reflection in a mirror. Once you realize that all light is you and that you are also the source light you might be able to reach the "christ consciousness" but you need to realize that everything is a mirror its fact or science not philosophy although science is just philosophy as well. Sure set and setting has effect, but what happens when you realize you have lived all lives? " Its realizing that all past life's, all current life, and all future life is you." Do you think its time to stop and reassess what actually is going on here? The material world is a mirror shining light into your eye, the source of where the light is .....is everywhere including you. Every seen your reflection in a piece of glass, where is that image coming from if you are not self reflective?
  • Mar 15 2013: well we see it as a solid surface because are eyes are not good enough to see the holes within it so our brains just perceive it as solid
    and yes somewhat but what does quantum mechanics have to do with shadows?
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      Mar 15 2013: I am saying that mass and shadow are the same thing and that "mass" is the built up of layers of shadows to create what looks like a solid surface. And so the light is bouncing off of the "atoms" which are the shadows of light?

      Think about how we see atoms? We shine a light on them that light has to bounce off of something. What is it bouncing off of? That makes the atom visible
  • Mar 15 2013: seriously? go in a pitch black room turn on a flashlight look at your shadow then turn off the light -___- the only reason you can see a shadow is because other light is reflecting off that surface but the brightest source of direct light is blocked therefore out of comparison to our mind a shadow is created
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      Mar 15 2013: Do you see the wall that your room is as a "solid" surface. Or are you familiar with Quantum Physics?
  • Mar 15 2013: no a shadow is just a lack of the sun's protons reaching the spot that you are occupying
    so no they don't have all those things shadows are just a lack of light i thought that was kinda obvious?
    and no the body is not a shadow we reflect light like you say and that is the only reason we can see one another
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      Mar 15 2013: Ok so if it is not "mass/shadow" of light what is light reflecting off of, because it needs something to reflect off of for us to see it
  • Mar 10 2013: well the quick and easy first approach

    is to just close you eyes and visualize ...something and thing ...note the quality and characteristics of the light in that visualization...is there any shadows there?

    With conscious and consistent / love guided / observation practice ...you will also note that the quality of this light shifts in direct proportion to your relaxing and observing. Some say it becomes" more jewel like" ...another way of describing its "Self-eluminated" - ness. IOW Non-reflected....the light of the "origin" or "source" itself.
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    Mar 10 2013: I don't think a shadow is a 3d object. If we go by the common meaning of shadow, there is a context of light, I agree. But I see a shadow as a projection or image of an object on a 2d plane. An object can have such a projected image on a 2d plane through electromagnetic signals as well as sonic or magnetic resonance signals.
    Moreover, I think normal 3d objects as projections of 4d realities (4th dimension being time). Since we do not have any sensory capabilities of time (circadian cycles are not time senses rather those of day lights) we never get the perception of 4d events. A tennis ball thrown in air and coming back to my hand in 1 sec is 1 light second spatially away - we simply fail to perceive it on account of huge velocity of electromagnetic signals.
    Imagine a shadow world where we all are 2d shadows. In such a world a square can turn into a rectangle, a circle to ellipse, a cone to circle depending on how these 3d objects turn with respect to projections. Suppose we do not have any clue of the 3rd spatial dimension - will those not appear to us queer? Our 2d physicists will bang their heads in 2 Cambridge or Harvard, don't you think?
    Just extrapolate my imagination to think why some of our physical events appear so queer and unexplainable.
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    Mar 9 2013: Hello,

    If this question would be about metaphysics of perception, we could assume that shadow becomes an object thanks to our ability of noticing it (during our analytical way of perceiving whole world);

    and this shadow becomes three-dimensional – just because it is an element of our three-dimensional world, it is not just about its dimensions as length and width – but also about stereoscopic seeing.

    According to Francis Crick (as far as perceiving of the world’s dimensions are concerned) if we’re using just one eye (without stereoscopic seeing) objects we’re seeing are flat and 2-dimensional (obviously we still have 3-dimensional picture of them in our mind);
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      Mar 10 2013: Yes and that is how the eye is formed we see 2 2d picturespatterns one from one eye and one from the other eye. Then those 2 images seek similar patterns and combined them to create a 3d stereoscopic image

      http://www.eyetricks.com/3dstereo.htm

      With out the 2 images everything would be 2d
  • Mar 9 2013: Hi, Casey !

    Is shadow an object ?
    Shadow doesn't exist without a 3D object; it doesn't have its own length and width, but is the distorted image of 3D object. Can we say that shadow is the 4th dimension of 3D object ? So, 3D object with shadow is a 4D object, that is an image of 3D object which is an image of 2D object ( field of information, maybe ) , which is an image of 1D object ( have no idea what it is ) which is the image of something else ? So, our collective mind inhabits the shadow of a shadow of a shadow...and makes it real.

    Does it make sense ? :)
    • Mar 9 2013: Hi nn

      To me the first approach would be to recognize ...Fully...the experience/existence of Non-reflected light ...it is "us" before any material "us" light. Non-refekected light is self eliminated and therefore it and all images associated within have no shadow.
      • Mar 10 2013: Hi Ed !!!
        Could you tell more about "the experience/existence of Non-reflected light ..." ?

        Thanks !
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          Mar 10 2013: no light needs something to reflect off

          Check out this video

          http://www.ted.com/talks/john_lloyd_an_animated_tour_of_the_invisible.html
        • Mar 10 2013: Hi!! nn well the quick and easy first approach

          is to just close you eyes and visualize ...something and thing ...note the quality and characteristics of the light in that visualization...is there any shadows there?

          With conscious and consistent / love guided / observation practice ...you will also note that the quality of this light shifts in direct proportion to your relaxing and observing. Some say it becomes" more jewel like" ...another way of describing its "Self-eluminated" - ness. IOW Non-reflected....the light of the "origin" or "source" itself.

          further note

          just watched BBC's The History of Russian Art" and reminded that this is the 100 anniversary of Kandisky's Painting No. 7 ....and the lead up to The Black Square. Living proof that "Back-ness" (( so called by the corporeal mind)) is the source of light
      • Mar 10 2013: "Black Square", Oh, yes... maybe now i see what you mean.
        " Black Square" is a kind of aschatological object ; the end is the beginning, the light is there, not yet reflected... OR/ AND.... the " Living proof that "Back-ness" (( so called by the corporeal mind)) is the source of light "
        iow. he who knows does not speak.
        Jackson Pollock and Kandinskiy are my favourites, the most accurate/rich reflection of light before/after rising into radiant darkness, Non-reflected light !
        Thankus !
        • Mar 10 2013: Hi back

          there is a "place" in the journey to Noetic which the sUfi call "Luminous Black" and it is very very real and very beyond description in words....Henry Corbin discusses it in his "Man of Light" / Iranian Sufism ....one could say it is the outer limits of ones' HUman BEing-ness ability to enter the Noetical.

          I for one believe that Malevich was after that "place" the time period would fit the expansion of consciousness happening in Europe ....there have been many attempts at on the edge black ...good stuff :-)

          and Yes!!! to ThankUs!!
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          Mar 11 2013: They are one and the same arguing from where the "light" source is would just lead to sanity ....oh wait we already have that here on earth.

          The path that I chose leads to one or 2 ends the 1)is death normally suicide and 2) insanity..... luckily for me I was able to figure out a way to give up choice/ego in a very weird way I got a DUI that I wasnt drunk or intoxicated but lead me to spending 5 days in jail ...an a true prison. One that was created by men for men. That was the best thing that could ever happen to me
      • Mar 10 2013: The very words 'Let there be light!' pushed darkness into existence, as a recognition of light ; and existence itself with time/space and all that fallows.Existence is a kind of a device that breaks 1 into 2 and division grows exponentially.
        Every 'thing' is what it is and what it is not, otherwise there is no thing, 'nothing' To be in only the light, in 'no time' zone means not 'to be '
        Can we be and not be simultaneously ? In fact, we always are.
        "HUman BEing-ness ability to enter the Noetical " is probably the effort to bring to 'to be' something from ' not be ' ...
        My language capacity betrays me :)

        edited

        Luminous Black is the recognition of Radiant Light ' like is known by like ' .
        • Mar 11 2013: Hi back

          yes as "dimension-ality" increases 4th , 5th 6th time/space are not. then Only existence is
      • Mar 12 2013: Once upon a time, there was a student who went to a math lecture. When the lecture was over, he approached one of the other students, and said,
        "I couldn't follow that at all. The professor was talking about rotating 8-dimensional objects! How am I supposed to visualize something rotating in 8 dimensions?"
        "Easy," replied the other student, "you visualize it rotating in N dimensions, then let N go to 8."
        —old joke :)

        Hi, Ed !
        Did i understand you right ? :)
      • Mar 29 2013: There is bio luminescence. But we don't have that.
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      Mar 10 2013: At natasha nikulina It does have its own length and can even big bigger and larger then the 3d object that created the shadow
      • Mar 10 2013: So, there are no shadows in pure light , right ?

        Reflected light creates shadow and it has a kind of will of its own it may be bigger or smaller, than the 3D object, it projects. A shadow is distorted image of the source.

        Or ...just everyday experience : In a shadow of a big house a tree doesn't cast shadow.

        So, in the shadow there are no shadows either.

        It means that the absence of shadow unites two opposites : the light and the darkness, they are one. Be-ing divides one into two and resides in indeterminate zone, in between.
        Just thoughts :)
      • Mar 10 2013: About video, it's great ! :)

        It may mean that the light of the "origin" or "source" itself is not patterned hence can't be perceived and understood. It is not even ' light' in usual sense, as well as a moment is not a moment in ' no time zone ' There is no chance for rational mind to enter there.
        Anything that can be understood gains a shadow of 'not quite true' When multiplied by the centuries of scientific exploration " not quite true' becomes utterly untrue.
        On the other hand what can be untrue for Absolute Truth? By the end of rational exploration we come to the irrational values of love..., dream, intent , idea of oneness that must be irrationally embraced. It's how the world really works.
        So, we end where we started ...
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      Mar 11 2013: Light creates shadow not something like out house, its just the image that the shadow takes on
      • Mar 12 2013: Yes, it looks like true :it's just the image that the shadow takes on.
        To avoid the shadow of language ambiguity here, just an example : a human mind captured in its own strong belief system is under the illusion/ image/ shadow of truth, while open mind reflects the light and sees shadows, that light creates... so it is aware that what it sees may look true enough, but it's not the Truth.
        Does my example has any relevance to what you meant ? :)
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          Mar 14 2013: This is how choices should be made

          What would Jesus do?
          He would try to relate to the person, whether from his personal experiences or from someone else’s experiences/knowledge (parable). And respond with knowledge/wisdom that he would want to hear if it was he who came to them for help.
          That’s what Jesus would do.
          Do on to others as you would have them do on to you.
          If you imply this concept to the most fundamental parts of life you would have intuition.

          The hardest part about this is how do you relate to a person so it comes off as if the knowledge is from them selves. This is why is hard to do the "do unto others as you would have then do unto you" The answer has to be common sense. Not to the person (in this case Jesus) but to the other. It has to be their common sense not his.

          "Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, who said it, no matter if I said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense." ~ Siddhartha Gautama, founder of Buddhism
      • Mar 12 2013: Re :The path that I chose leads to one or 2 ends the 1)is death normally suicide and 2) insanity..

        Sanity would just lead to the alienation from the society, in some sense. But what one would be alienated from is inane insane and dangerous.
        So, maybe the third way should be preferred .

        What did you get there, in jail , if you don't mind me asking.

        Thank you !
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          Mar 14 2013: I had to figure out how giving up choices gives up ego. To remove my ego or my choices. Which is what most gods are asking for their followers to do. One way to do that is to commit suicide(think mass suicides) ultimately ended your ability to choose. With insanity you actually lose your ego and most likely super-ego. You make choice that you would not normally make because chances are they start listening to the voices in their head which in theory are just fragments of their own personal thoughts trying to reform the "ego" back into their consciousness. These voices are most likely past life's(spirit guides) trying to teach the person how bring balance back into them or could be their personal hell trying to come through to destroy them and the one they love around them.

          The interesting thing about all of this is sometimes its ok. So I was coming to grips with the hell that I created and was living in "in this reality" everything and everyone became a prison to me. That I could not except(except for the other 2 ways to escape) But then I actually went to jail and was put in a man made prison. Where the hell that I was walking through in this life "reality" wasn't even close to the hell those people were living in I met a man that got duck taped and beaten with a baseball bat by his parents. I don't even want to imagine what that hell has to feel like to do that to my child so much hate in their hearts. And the whole time all this guy wanted was to be excepted. But in an effort to make his friends like him, all he was really doing was hurting him self.
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          Mar 14 2013: It reminded me why I chose this path in the first place and I chose it not for me but for other. I have to remember that natasha nikulina was more important then any item I could own or purchase. That other is real and it more important then everything else in the material world
      • Mar 14 2013: Actually, the freedom from choices is a working definition for free will.
        It is only when we stop choosing that we begin to exercise free will.
        And maybe it will set you free and show the way back to the Garden. The hell is gradually disappearing with the dieing of undernourished ego :)

        "Only he who looses his life shall find it "
        It's about the death of ego, what is 'it' that shall be found ?
        I have never met anyone who managed, but i know some ( very few ) who are on the path. The most successful ones are those who don't even know that they are on the path.
        Are you sure that your ego is not haunting you ?
        It's the nature of the dual world we inhabit : the higher you go the deeper abyss is challenging you.
        The brighter the fire is, the more darkness it reveals.
        We have a fear of looking inward to ourselves because we sense that is where all the
        contradictions flow together.
        'What is the evidence of your Father in you?' say to them, 'It is motion and rest.'"

        Thanks for your story !
        The people's stories we don't know is what our unconsciousness is made of and we do share it.

        Thank you !
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          Mar 14 2013: What if I already went through the awakening process. What if I already exist with in the Christ Consciousness because I know we are one and that any form of separation in not "real" just visual holograms/hallucination. Now what if I tell you we not me but we the human race can figure out existence. What if the path that was my choice and of course I asked for permission first, that I asked to become the second coming. What if that means I know how to end poverty. Create peace that everyone would agree with. What if this is the path that I chose. What if that means I had to realize that I had to walk through my own personal hell (red sea) that I created..and I knowingly and fully chose to. What if I can feel every pulse of energy that runs through my body. What if when I am around an "energy vampire" I floor them to the ground with how much energy I am pumping out. What if that mean I can connect the dots of life using logic reasoning and religion. Now if you believe in QP how could anything outside of the atom have 3 dimensions what if having 3 dimensions it gives us an outward expression of in inward process which is the holy trinity. What if all of this is true and what if it makes me no different from you?
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          Mar 14 2013: If a MAN asked you to walk through the eye of hell with him and he say's he will get you through to the other side. He say's he will hold your hand the whole time but you will never see it, he will be your strength but you will have to carry the burden. He will be your guide but you will have to follow. Would you believe him?

          When you make it through he will stop tell you to look at the journey you just made and show you it was YOUR eye you walked through. (this is why I have no more fear)

          Why do men judge men?


          I had to believe in Jesus the man, to believe in Casey the man
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          Mar 14 2013: Its realizing that everything is refection of self, even when things are not "self reflective". The material world is a "mirror" reflecting light back out at you. Its realizing its your own light that is is shining back at you for you reflect self. You are shining light out as it comes into you. Its realizing that all past life's, all current life, and all future life is you. It's realizing that you are death yourself. That you are both judge and executioner. It realizing that all of this was created to figure out existence on some fundamental way. Its realizing that all gods have been saying that we are one, when even they did not know fully the implications. Because it is hard to counter something that can counter your every move. Which is just you. It realizing that how ever you want to define this reality it is "real" and yet as "fake" as the heavens we have been promised. Its realizing that we are the equal but opposite reaction to the gods. And if this reality did not exist that reality would not exist. For we created each other, because we are co-creators.

          Do know what it means to look through the world as the ultimate observer?

          "Remember we are mirrors unto each other; that which you see in me is the projection of something you most need to recognize within yourself."
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          Mar 14 2013: The evidence of my father in me is his Unconditional love at the time that I was learning it I was not aware of his teaching. My love dog Sabyn reminded me of the unconditional love that I had once learned from my father.

          Unconditional love means holding someone's hand while they are traveling through there own personal hell (and you might be as well), and not giving up on them, and reminding them everything will get better. I will never let go of your hand and to anyone who has felt like I have I am sorry, just reach out and I will be there