Robert Winner


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where is the public outrage to the sequester

The sequester has arrived and cuts are now being announced but there is no public outrage ... why? Political gamesmanship has now taken center stage. The administration has released thousands of illegals back into the US public domain. Cuts made to airline safety. This occured immediately.

What if we looked at the Executive staff .. all 2000 of them. Thomas Jefferson had a messenger and a secretary. Execpt for secretaries almost all of the positions are duplicartes of existing cabnets, departments, and agencies. Get on the web and look at executive csars .. yep there is a list.

How about if we went to the OMB site that evaluates existing programs. This was set up by Bush but now has the following header. "This is historical material, "frozen in time."
"The web site is no longer updated and links to external web sites and some internal pages will not work." There are four pages of dysfunctional programs that are being funded and have been determined as "ineffective".

We currently barrow 40% of the money to fund our budget. Our debits have exceeded our GDP (income) why is there no outrage?

Why are our leaders (all) off campaigning, playing golf, vacationing, etc .... working their normal three day week. We are in deep dodo and our politicians do not seem to care as long as they get their way. The US Elite. It is good to be royality.

We should be upset ... offended ... outraged ..... So why aren't we?

  • Mar 6 2013: Many don't fully understand wha will occur over time! The problem is that Congress has lost their will to compromise. No one in Congress wants to make the tough decisions for fear of losing their jobs i.e. not getting re-elected. Leading is not a popularity contest! Leader's need to make decisions based upon facts, as much as can be provided, intuition and sense for what is right for the country. Sequestration will affect many jobs but not the politicans! They should all not get paid until they come to some tough decisions are made. In fact we should lock them in a room and tell them they can't come out, or get paid, until decsions are reached! This would make something happen rather than usual blame game!
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      Mar 9 2013: The sad draw back of democracy right? We have leaders more concerned with gaining power, not what they will do with it. It's not even that they are blatantly corrupt with the power. They do nothing except point the finger at the other guy, and hope the ad hominem bug bites their constituents.
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    Gail .

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    Mar 6 2013: What good would outrage do me? Even if we were all outraged, nothing meaningful would be done. Laws would be passed, but they would contain intentional loop holes benefiting those who have bought our politicians at our expense. My voice is meaningless because, according to SOTUS, money is a guaranteed free speech right for those pieces of paper (corporate charters) who have been elevated to citizenship status in spite of a Constitutional ban on their doing so. I am the enemy of my government - and we all know on some level that we all are.

    If we were to be willing to restore a Constitutional Republic (which we are not), these would not be issues. We would again be communities working for our common survival. But we have no communities any more. Distrust and bad laws have destroyed them. An educational system that teaches outright provable lies about how government is supposed to work makes things more difficult. That same educational system that produces functionally uneducated people with low self-esteem makes it even more difficult. That the educational system is state-sponsored, existing with the intent to turn people into commodities - which they have done successfully - is deplorable. What you see is EVIDENCE of that - a symptom of a very grave and deadly social illness.

    Now speaking of politicians. How is it that incumbents won so many seats in our recent election? Why do people think that THEIR representative or THEIR party is the only good one - worthy of reelection, while the other 531 should be booted out of office if their constituents weren't so stupid as to not know that?

    Pat, Anger and outrage would be wasted energy. I think that I'm not alone in thinking this.

    We are allowing ourselves to be held hostage. Any fix will destroy the economy upon which our survival depends. So to be outraged is to further jeopardize our lives.

    Which is why I encourage people to learn how to manifest their needs (per Jesus) B4 letting the economy fail.
  • Mar 6 2013: I think many people feel no outrage because their representatives are doing exactly what their electorate wants them to do. We elected these people just a few months ago. While congress as a whole has an approval rating in the basement, individual representatives have high approval ratings in their own districts. I do not think we can fairly point the blame at congress without also blaming the people who elected them. Us.
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    Mar 5 2013: welcome to Shock Doctrine 101...
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    Mar 6 2013: Personally I’m working really hard to manage my stress level, and part of that is to limit the amount of politics and news I view.

    Aslo I knew it was going to happen ever since the Budget Control Act of 2011 was passed; there is not one thing in it that the ruling party did not want.
    Plus that outrage should be because the US is no longer has a two party political system, currently one or both parties are just puppet parties, to give the illusion of freedom. You would think that with access to Hollywood they would give better performances.
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    Mar 6 2013: Why would anyone be outraged that someone is slowing-down the leak? The ship of state is taking-on water and listing to port ever more severely. We are sinking! Wait! Someone has partially plugged the hole and we are taking-on far less water than before. Maybe we can pump the water overboard and maybe we can save ourselves from sinking. The problem is that most passengers don't know we are sinking and don't care to know what the ship's status is or to do anything to help save it.
  • Mar 6 2013: Outrage isn't action.
    Action is action, even if it is violent.
    Which is apparently what is in store, whether people act or not.
    The citizens finally getting into action is and will be, the only/last way of empowering themselves.

    The empowerment will come from their decision to face death or freedom,
    because they are going to die anyway.
    In other words, what the citizens of America are afraid will happen to them should they rise up (action), and dismantle their totally corrupt government, is exactly what is going to happen to them if they don't.
    Starting it yourself, is empowerment. Having it done to you, isn't. It is suicidal-victimization-by-sheeple.

    As I understand the sequester, it is about "starving the beast".
    Beast is a term long used by rulers to describe the citizenry. It is a biblical, demonizing term.
    I take it almost literally. They are going to make cuts, that will starve the "beast", meaning the people.
    Ultimately, that is what will happen with massive cuts and will quickly lead to a fear-panic that leads to a dependency upon whatever mercy and grace the rulers might consider bestowing upon the starving masses.

    That mercy and grace will be non-existent.
    "It will only get worse if you don't approve the bailout." That is the second bluff and the people fell for it.
    Well, we know who got bailed out and we know who got thrown out, and we know who is down and out.
    The water will run out, the food will run out, the electricity will run out, the heat will run out and hunger will win out.

    Action is the only recourse Americans have. They seem to refuse to take it.
    "We can fix it. Somehow it will turn around. God will save us. I have faith it will all be okay. They couldn't possibly want such a failure to occur. They have our best interests at heart. I believe them. I trust them. They are good, moral people, what harm could they possibly want for us/US? It will be allright. In the end, it will turn out for the best."

    There are offers for workers. Slaves.
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    Mar 6 2013: Outrage would require people who care. The culture has become one of Meh
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    Mar 5 2013: Hypotheses: 1. People are tired of being angry. 2. People would rather see the budget more balanced regardless of how it is done than not. 3. There has not been time for large numbers of people to feel the impact of the cuts in a negative way 4. People are entirely accustomed to disfunction and not optimistic of being able to do anything about it.
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      Mar 5 2013: Fritzie, Yeah, all four ring true. Thanks for the reply. For just a second lets look at #4. We are becomiung accustomed to dysfunctional .... wow what a scary statement even though it is true.

      Is it a matter of education, either formal or informal, that the public has trouble reading the tea leaves. Have we as a society drank so much koolade that we expect it and even thirst for it. Is apathy so now entrenched that nothing is either a surprise or angers us.

      In our TED environment we often hear what we need to hear and often I do not like it .. but it is good for me to hear it. Some read, hear, and grow ... while others will go to the grave with their minds firmly locked. I guess the question is can the health and welfare of the United Staes ever be discussed without a political opinion. I stated not long ago that the national debit exceeded the GDP and we barrow 40% of the money to fund our budget and got the reply that Bush got us into war over weapons of mass destruction. Have we went that far into my party versus your party that we can no longer look at the issue?

      The major issue on todays news was Congress is meeting over gun control .... not a single mention on our channel on the budget. I was relieved to hear that Congress has not deviated from its three day work week because of a national crisis ... I was concerned there for a while that they might do their job. Thankfully I was wrong.

      Always enjoy talking to you ... I must go wash the sarcasm off my face .. LOL .. Bob.
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        Mar 5 2013: Hi, Bob. My short reply about the factors in whether people read, hear, think, and grow is that this probably has less to do with education (though it is often blamed) than with the individual's psychological needs. People often cling to beliefs and positions that serve them emotionally. They may be very deaf to counterargument in these areas.

        Some people need to feel superior or even just safe and adopt belief systems to support those personal interests, beliefs that they are unwilling to see questioned.

        Curiosity, examination of alternatives, self-reflection, and critical thinking may take a back seat while confirmation bias sits on the throne.I agree that schools need to continue to focus on critical thinking, but I don't think that necessarily sticks with people in adulthood because that sort of learning seems later to get swamped by other factors in many cases.
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    Mar 5 2013: The government hyped it up Rob, They got the populace used to the idea with printing and then the media hype so when they did start, the population knew it was coming. Privatization of very profitable services will result in the government gutting these companies putting them into a major debt crisis, then will come the partial selling off of these once lucrative companies. It's what happened here in Nz to one of our privatized energy companies that was a 6000% profit maker, then they gutted it. and are now going to offer it to us in shares. Gut it then make us pay more.