- Scotland Willis
- Boston, MA
- United States
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Giving greater consideration to specific patterns that drive poverty
As one drives, walks, or otherwise moves through impoverished neighborhoods in the contiguous 48 states, you can observe various "brands" that occur in a rather recognizable pattern. I call this the Branding of Poverty. Duncan Doughnuts, McDonalds, pizza joints, high volume low nutritional value corner stores, foreign owned/ community unoccupied stores that sell cheap usually Asian (or similar economic profiles) made goods. We have come up with systemized way to mass produce poverty.
So how do we deconstruct such a system? Is that possible? And where does one begin? Where will the most sustainable gains be made that don't bastardize the process? How do we build value in the nomenclature so that we don't get lost in the rhetoric? Clearly the efforts from public services is not enough as the patters surrounding obesity have little impact on individuals who are victims in this demographic. Are they victims because of a self inflicted lifestyle or is it a larger problem as claimed.













Scotland Willis
I am familiar with some of the work you mentioned. My intention was not to come across as though work is not being done in this area; rather that I am seeking a more lasting change that is reflected in a change in the patterns. Recognizing a problem is one thing, preventing it is another. I will explore some of the resources you mentioned for deeper insights.
Some cities, Boston included, are taking the nutritional issue more seriously than other-- that's important. But true gains are evident the patterns no longer exists. From an epidemiological standpoint, identifying a factor is helpful, but knowing the source allows us to achieve a whole different level of change. Here we know the source and still reject change. I suppose progress can be inspiring but change is the beacon.
Fritzie Reisner 100+
Providing information can not be counted by itself to solve problems, particularly if the root of the problem is not ignorance.
Scotland Willis
Yes Fritzie's legitimate points are taken. Yet our political inept leaders at this time are more concerned with the pole position of their parties than the well being of our nation. Not to get off subject, but what I see happening is a systematic process of overwhelming disenfranchisement resulting in a lackluster public performance (i.e., removing politicians from office):
"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--" My point is that political will is not just about our governors but the citizens it governs.
Returning to the branding issue, it is really a metaphor for recognizing the patters that are especially inflicted upon impoverished communities. Unlike being sentenced for a crime, there are advocates that replace public defenders so we are let to their resources. It become incumbent upon them to exercise these marketing campaigns I speak of. I am by no means taking away from the fact that people have choices and the responsibility to behave in a manner more aligned with self preservation, but most of us know that education (also lacking in impoverished communities) is key to understanding how to change and when change is necessary and imperative.
Scotland Willis
A pipe dream? Perhaps what what happens if we just continue to Talk about it.
Fritzie Reisner 100+
Related to this but in countries with a great deal of poverty, Esther Duflo of the Poverty Action Lab at MIT has done research into nutritional choices among the very poor. Specifically, she documents the behavior of seeking tastier food over more nutritious food when there is even the slightest amount of income beyond subsistence. This arises in part from not understanding the short or long term benefits of good nutrition but arises partly also from conscious consumption choices that focus on the experienced value in the present over the future.
Gail . 50+
Feyisayo Anjorin 50+
I don't think it has anything to do with brands. As Fritzie has said, it is true that junk food are usually cheaper than healthy ones; but the brands can not be blamed for the profits that comes from people`s conscious choices.
What should be done is the provision of a level playing ground for small-scale industries and small business, protection from the overwhelming power of multinationals. This is an uphill task, but it depends on political will.
In the end, every day people are getting richer, even the poor are joining the rich, just as a few rich also lose their wealth. Every good thing has a price. It`s a personal choice. Are you going to be good at what you do? or are you going to be good at giving excuses?
Fritzie Reisner 100+
What does this mean: "How do we build value in the nomenclature so we don't get lost in rhetoric?"
In terms of poverty and obesity, it is true junk food tends to be cheaper than more healthful food.
Scotland Willis
Re: How do we..." speaks to maintaining both meanining and value in a strategy so as not to compromise the effectiveness of any type of initiative that might have legs. It is easy (as in the O.J . trials as wel as or current political circus) to desensitize people as rhetoric often does, destroying even the most meaningful initiatives.
Scotland Willis
Scotland Willis
pat gilbert 100+
pat gilbert 100+