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Is God Real?

Its human nature to seek superiority and its human nature to seek an authoritative entity to take responsibility and control of one's life. So i often wonder if God is just that idea. The idea of a god that is all powerful and all knowing and just superior in everyday than any human being, is the very idea that makes me question the legitimacy of a God. We tend to subscribe to a divine command or an authoritative figure. The creator of the universe gets to set the rules and do anything it likes with its creations like sending them for eternal punishment.

And lastly, everyone that believes in a divine command gets the same satisfaction from believing in something that everyone else gets no matter what they believe in.

I am just interested in the TED community's input on this. I am a student of life, so i take no biases even if it sounds like it sometimes. :)

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  • Feb 25 2013: If by "God" you mean: an omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent entity, and by "Real" you mean: scientifically proven fact (currently or in the future), then I'm sorry to tell you that you question has no answer, which means both answers (yes and no) are equally valid (or more accurately: equally invalid). If you include omnipresent on your definition of God, then, there is simply no room for scientific proof or disprove. An omnipresent God may or may not exist, but the only truly 100% scientifically verifiable fact is that we will never know, never ever.

    I almost forget a very important point, if you don't include "omnipresent" in your definition of God, that necessarily and automatically excludes omniscient, and omnipotent, which leaves you with a God who is not everywhere, does not know all and is not all mighty.

    So, Is God Real ?... that depends on you definition of "God", and on your definition of "Real".
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      Feb 25 2013: Hi George :)
      Thanks for the comment, when i say God, i mean an omnipotent being that as religion puts it, takes care of our needs not our wants. And by real i mean visibly and tangibly real as a separate entity from your conscious. As in its not a creation of the mind and it consciously exists in space and time.
      • Feb 25 2013: Realize something: there is no possible way for God to be omnipotent if it is not omnipresent, and if God is omnipresent then it is necessarily and automatically invisible to our senses, and intangible to our minds, because its essence cannot be separated from physical matter, if God is omnipresent, then each atom that forms you is part of God, that means God cannot be separated from you, so...: how could you separate it from you conscious if you cannot separate it from your body???. Like I said, an omnipresent God is necessarily invisible and intangible. There is simply no way you can see, feel, touch, taste or hear an omnipresent God. That is the reason why you cannot proof or disprove its existence. I even dare to say that if you define God as omnipresent then any argument in favor or against its existence is invalid by definition.
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          Feb 26 2013: That is one perspective.

          To me all knowing is just a human construct, a concept, and very hard for a human mind to really comprehend. Probably impossible in reality.

          What that means in regards where the entity is located is pure speculation.

          I don't have to be everywhere to see a lot, hear a lot, etc outside my body. You could invent a god concept that knows everything via a super god sense, while it sits on my coffee table.

          I suggest you can not prove its existence, because there is no emprical proof and most likely its just an idea humans made up.

          If there is an entity somewhat like this then we still have no reliable way of knowing whether it exists or anything about it. It might as well not exist because it is outside our senses, outside our capability to detect.

          You can not disprove it because it is constructed in a way that is impossible to disprove.

          But is the same way you can not prove much of anything about its nature or intentions because there is no information other than the concepts some humans latch onto.

          Did you there is a transcendent invisible immaterial toaster. You can not prove or disprove these sorts of human constructs, but you can assign as much meaning or dogma as you like via subjective so called "spiritual" experience and revelations of your own or recorded through history or philosophised into existence.

          Actually you could assume this being has 3 different aspects, is triune in nature or 7, or 113 if you like.

          Sometimes the attributes tagged onto god concepts are a bit contradictory. Not sure how you can be all merciful and all just.

          And defining something as all good is like defining circles as the perfect shape. Or that the universe is perfect. It's just a definition that leads to circular thinking and contradictions with conflicting all good god concepts. It seems like nonsense.

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