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What are some ideas for stopping corruption in government?

There are many motivations for corruption in governmnet. No need to list them here. Are there any viable means for stopping it?

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  • Feb 23 2013: There is corruption, that is true.
    It cannot be fixed or eliminated. That is probably true.
    So what else is true, is eliminating the reasons for being corrupt.
    That is true.
    With no reasons, meaning no gain, most all corruption will be gone because
    the "game is corruption", it is "based on corruption", and it cannot function
    "without corruption".
    But if the causes or reasons are gone, so too is corruption gone.
    If you have a system that has no reasons for corruption, no gain from corruption and no chance of being corrupted, then you have a just system and that is very, very achievable.
    There will be no place for corruption to hide, to seed and grow and to gain power.
    That is true.
    It isn't in the hearts of humans to be corrupt.
    It isn't in the genes of humans to be corrupt.
    It isn't human nature to be corrupt.
    Corruption is one response that is used most profusely, but only when there is a reason to become corrupt.
    In a just system (not the ones we currently have), corruption cannot exist.
    That is what a just system is and humans act accordingly.
    If that were not true, then they wouldn't act accordingly in a corrupt system (corruption)
    which is to become corrupt for survival.
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      Feb 23 2013: What are the steps to make this happen? (I am aware of the Venus Project) Is this what you're alluding to, or something else?
      • Feb 24 2013: HI Ward.
        To some degree, yes. Mr. Fresco has worked on re-engineering society for over 75 years. His ideas may not be perfect but I know of no one who has worked this long and this diligently on actually trying to solve all our problems that doesn't include profiting off of them. Solving them globally, for everyone.
        To keep corruption and greed from coming into a system, the reasons or places for it, have to go.
        Ownership of the earths resources for example. The earths resources are used for profit but even more importantly, they are mismanaged, wasted and their scarcity drives profit up along with fear of not getting ones needs met, and more savage lives lived, competing more ferociously against one another for that survival. Resources are what we all work for, but they are our needs. I believe we need to begin, and one place would be Universal Human Needs. They should become Universal Human Rights. Free to everyone. This stops fear of not being able to survive.
        The resources don't belong to anyone except every life form on the planet, regardless of where they are located. So they have to be managed properly, economically (meaning no waste, prudent use without creating pollution), and everyone has a right to their fair share they need to live.
        Politicians need to go. They don't solve problems. We are always left to solve our problems and if we have what we need to do so, we usually do. They don't so we don't need them thus we don't use them. Same with the monetary system. It begins with creating inequality that leads to greed (fear), crime (fear) and that in turn leads to poverty that begets slavery and those at the top invest in war and death, the two most profitable (money) enterprises.
        Their power lies there. Banks have to go. As Mr. Fresco said, during the depression everything was in place, nothing had changed but the people weren't there because of money.
        We do things because we want to, need to, dream about doing. We will still do them, dream them need them.
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          Feb 24 2013: Hey Random
          I agree with the principles and ideals you suggest that would help create a better world. Scarcity, is as you say a false concept perpetuated by those would and do take advantage. As human beings we can and should do better. I'm not as sure as you are though about what's in our hearts, genes, and nature.
          As I get older, (and hopefully wiser) I see more and more the inherent good in people, but does that mean that people are ONLY good? I don't think it's a pessimistic indictment on humanity to admit that we all posses to varying degrees the qualities that allow bad behavior. That some people are more predisposed to exhibit those qualities, is for me expected and even accepted as part of the human experience, even in the humanness of our leaders.
          A change as profound as the Venus Project will not and can not take place overnight by snapping our fingers and saying that money, politicians, and the idea of scarcity is gone. Even if the end game you envision requires no (or limited) leadership, getting there will. Even revolutions (which I do not advocate) require leadership. Choosing (or allowing) leaders who exhibit fewer of the traits we don't appreciate is and will be the challenge; being able to discern between what a leader is telling us and what is in his heart remains the rub.
          I prefer evolution to revolution (I can explain why if you like, but it will take more characters than I have left) as more viable and more likely. It takes longer and is not as immediately gratifying, but given the current mood, (mine at least) I am seeing the potential for people, like yourself perhaps, to stand up and lead by example.
      • Feb 26 2013: Sounds more like Howard Scott's Technocracy movement. "A life worth living"

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