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Sherrlene Uy

Teacher - English and Research, Glendale School, Inc. (QC, Phil)

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What are the challenges that gifted and creative individuals face at present?

Hi everyone! I am working on a research about the gifted and creative individuals. I'd like to know what are the challenges that the gifted and creative people experience in your country. Share your thoughts please :) Thanks!

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      Feb 21 2013: I like how you phrased your statement! It says it all! Thanks :)
    • Mar 8 2013: I have learned much more independently through the internet's awesome and efficient knowledge gathering functions then I ever did in school. No college credits for that though, just intellectual satisfaction.
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    Feb 18 2013: Gifted and creative individuals often go unrecognized because of close associations they have with introversion. Introverts are sometimes not very good at 'getting themselves out there' in order to be discovered or to profit from their own talent.

    I suggest that too often, gifted individuals are subjugated by standardized education and by the workplace, such that their natural talents are never realized properly again in adulthood. A talent that has become profoundly inhibited in this way I believe can lead to mental health problems, the more that person tries to conform to someone else's 'normality' other than their own.
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      Feb 18 2013: Well said! Thank you very much!
    • Feb 18 2013: "...the more that person tries to conform to someone else's 'normality' other than their own. "
      You truly hit the nail on the head, Allan!

      I totally agree with you!
      I think it is the way they—creative individuals—yield that makes the challenges that gifted and creative individuals face at present. Sometimes not knowing what we’re destroying, we just give up on our creativity!
      The judges aren’t others; those are us.
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      Feb 20 2013: Allen, My inner introvert thanks you for giving her a voice ;-)
  • Mar 3 2013: As a parent of three children who have been placed in the category of "Gifted," I have found that resources in the public school system for nurturing gifted abilities are extremely lacking; resources for students with "special needs" unfortunately in most cases do not include resources for the gifted, only for students with disabilities. I believe it is important to meet the needs of students who struggle as well as students who have the potential to excel. They each have unique needs that differ from the average student. According to the neuropsychologist who completed our testing, gifted students who are not sufficiently intellectually stimulated and nurtured to reach their potential are at the highest risk of quitting school and engaging in destructive behaviors in attempts to meet these needs. This should be of great concern to our society considering the incredible potential that is lost due to neglect. We need more thriving brilliance in our world.
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      Mar 3 2013: I agree absolutely - both as a parent of a gifted daughter whose school is having trouble recognizing her needs, and also based on my own personal experience (the words "engaging in destructive behaviors in attempts to meet these needs" is close to home!).

      We do need more thriving brilliance in the world - along with some of the other things that many gifted people bring, including a preoccupation with justice.

      Gifted people are often indestructibly creative - but their creativity can go unrecognized because it's 'outside the box'.
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    Feb 17 2013: Difficulty to conform and downscale to common understanding.
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      Feb 17 2013: I look forward to Pabitra's response before offering my own as I believe this is the most relevant to your question…

      And in support of Mary's response, hitting the "reply" button for each comment sends a email message to the poster to engage...
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        Feb 18 2013: A gifted and creative mind sees, internalizes and reflects on things in unique ways. Unique, in the sense it is least bothered with authority but seeks authenticity of the substance in question. For example one can sense gender in colors without being influenced by prevalent memes. There is a musical software available which can create symphonies in response to chromatic inputs such that a person with musical gift but no formal training or knowledge of notations can create an orchestra just by interacting with the software for some time. The persons behind the two examples are gifted and creative.
        I have seen with my modest experience that such people are either terribly weak or naturally indifferent to the social standards. Their partners, parents and families need to be extra careful in protecting them because the large part of their conscious energy is engaged with a creative process leaving least resources for socail interactions. They find it difficult to conform to the role of a colleague, partner or a friend and also to general order of the society.
        The challenge for a gifted and creatively inclined person is to moderate his/her expressions to be undestandable by common folks. This is because, gifted as he/she is there is also the need of companionship, acceptance and fondness. My observation is that when they are young and just about learning the reality of making connections in life, they suffer and dubbed as either rude or nerdy or callous despite their brightness. If you sample the lives of few gifted celebrities you will be surprised to note how badly they fare in their private lives. Aging brings a wisdom, however, and they learn the trick.
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      Feb 18 2013: Oh, that was fast! Thanks a lot! :)

      Would you mind elaborating your thoughts about this issue? I am really interested how people from the other parts of the globe think about this :) thanks again ^^
  • Mar 6 2013: I think the general public categorizes genius, creative or otherwise, as impotent. Money is worshiped and great ideas are only great if they are valuable. People need a realization that art and the future we make for humanity are more important than what we do for ourselves in the here and now. Beautiful minds face short sight; the inability to look at what one is doing as good on a larger scale (a more real scale) than an economic one.
    • Mar 7 2013: This is why people who are gifted and talented need to be provided with support to reach their best selves, both in terms of mentoring and economics. Many gifts and talents don't fit in convenient "job boxes", and trying to stuff someone into such a box results not only in failure for the organization, but also disheartening of the individual. This can and will crush creativity in many people.
    • Mar 7 2013: so you say "People need a realization that art and the future we make for humanity are more important than what we do for ourselves in the here and now."

      I say that you have just stated a bunch of nonsense.

      1st if art is so important, pay all the artist and not just a few "known/famous" ones, not only pay them but pay them more than what you pay an engineer!

      now the future of humanity is not in opposition of what we do for ourselves in the here and now, because we are humans and we need to take care of the here and now to be able to have a future.

      so unless the person is very rich, money is always needed, or are you going to pay the bills of all those artists? are you going to pay those surgeries and other hospital bills the people may need? are you going to pay their debts?

      I don't think so

      a pipe dream that renders every one poor and in misery
      • Mar 7 2013: I think you and I are what some would call prime examples of a 'realist' versus an 'idealist'. I world where art is valued hire than economic status is a pipe dream?
        You've taken my comment to it's most extreme interpretation. My main point is that 'artists' are viewed as non-conributers. Amanda Palmer talks openly about being degraded as a street performer, being yelled at regularly to 'get a real job'.
        I think Sugata Mitra's discussion gives good examples of how encouragement is key; not just for children's education but growth as individuals.
        Even adults.
        Futurism is another matter entirely. My point is people have a 'whats in it for me' mentality when they make life choices. Such as the importance of getting their children involved in an after school art program versus paying for monthly cable. We need to invest in ourselves versus creature comforts.
        I see how I may have been mis-interpreted; I should be more clear.
    • Mar 8 2013: AND, if there is an invention that makes its way to market, the inventor is made a celebrity, rich w/ endorsements and becomes highly visible all very quickly. That can be destructive to ones internal organization too, highly restrictive success rate which denies public access to progress and ppl believe they rose from nothing bec THEY never heard of them. Reading backgrounds of pop stars, for eg: most have been performing for many many years, supported in their talents and educated "fame style" schools for performing arts, not just lucky.
      Also misleading to general public who think then that success is a result of pure chance so don't try for themselves to create what they love
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    Feb 27 2013: This thread has been haunting me, so I've been giving it deep thought.

    It seems to me, now that I have read so many comments from so many like-minded people, that all the shame I carried with me for so long, was spent on naught.

    SHAME - forcibly instilled in the young - shame for being different - shame for being "wrong" when they "know" that they aren't (and no one says why) - shame for wanting more than I was allowed (by public education) - shame for difficulty staying awake in the face of incredible boredom - shame for having unconventional ideas - shame for being ME. Shame, I think, is the greatest problem I faced. It was debilitating, and so unnecessary!

    I hope that you use your position to help those who are still trapped in hell. Thanks for the question. I am better for it.
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      Feb 27 2013: Well said, I feel you there. Creative, novel thoughts or ideas are often mocked or put down. People who do this make the creative individual feel self conscious or uncomfortable with sharing, let alone acting on their ideas. It`s a shame
  • Mar 1 2013: Gifted & Creative individuals are naturally driven by a passion.
    They forget that their gifted talents and skills have to be useful to people around them. If their talents are not useful to people around them then Gifted people suffer.
    Gifted people find it very difficult to go the extra mile to ensure their talents are useful to people around them.
    People around gifted people could help Gifted people to tap their talents for benefit of society.
    Then their would be Win-Win situation.
  • Feb 19 2013: I cannot speak for those who are gifted, because the definition of gifted to me is someone that is a high scholar in which I am not.

    However, I am a creative individual and I am currently fighting the challenge against my family which is success within happiness. I come from an Asian background and at first I didn't think my family was that stereotypical until I started standing up for my own happiness of pursuing something I enjoy. By stereotypical I mean they expect me to follow the route of medicine or business. I received comments such as "It's time to be a grown up", "You'll never make any money doing that", "That's not a real career", "Passion doesn't take you anywhere", "It's too late" and "It's stupid to spend money on stuff like that".

    Another challenge I run into is criticism. Instead of beneficial criticism, I'm often fed opinions that I should change my art work to something that's more "appropriate". To me that's difficult because that would mean I need to change my emotions, my mentality and literately myself - it's not that easy. I had the harshest criticism so far from one of my parents who told me to stop creating "funny stuff" and to throw away some of my art work.

    Which leads to my next challenge.. Myself. I really had to sit down and question everything constantly. Should I be shaping myself according to what everyone says is right? Or should I become my own unique individual and express who I really am? Is it disrespectful of me not to listen to my elders? Is it disrespectful of them to not accept me and support me?

    I had to figure out who I really was and what I was all about and not be my past but be the future I want. Gaining the confidence to put my foot down against those around who disagreed with my decisions, my creativity, my expression, and overall myself. Finding my own voice.It literately feels like you're fighting a lonesome battle against an entire army but it's become such a euphoric feeling I must say!

    Hope that helped!
    • Feb 20 2013: Hi Crystal, I love your post. You are very courageous. Most people are tuned into making money. Making money is actually creative too. Not everyone is creative at making money. Don't let others define for you what success is. The artist is someone who takes in their environment and lets it resonate with their genetics and their life experience and creates something original. Passion can propel you for many years. It's a good thing to have. The artist is sensitive. The artist is the 'canary in a coal mine', overly sensitive compared to others. That's how they resonate with their world. Art is a mirrored reflection of the world. It is like anthropology in the sense that the rest of the world can't see what you can see until you reveal it to them in your own way. It is a lonely battle and you are courageous. Make it work. Education will give you permission to do what you want to do and more. A future father in law once asked me . . ."When do you think you will become successful?" I replied "I feel successful right now!" He said "Touche".
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    Feb 18 2013: Great question Sherrlene Uy,

    Gifted and Creative individuals have special faculties, either born with or developed over time. The biggest challenge that I have seen such people face are...

    #1. Inability to EXPRESS their creativity so that other people understand
    #2. Lack of knowledge that their special skills are indeed special (they think everybody has it!!)
    #3. Being in the wrong neighborhood (means... no recognition)

    I wonder what others would be saying.

    Also, let me know what you think... and "Like" this answer if you do.

    Raam
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      Feb 18 2013: I STILL think that everyone has it - but that most are not self-aware enough to know it.
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      Feb 21 2013: I totally agree! This is very evident nowadays. Thank you for your response.
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    Feb 18 2013: I would like to try to simplify & condense my previous response:

    Biggest challenges for the gifted:

    Getting through compulsory education without coming to the conclusion that they are stupid, wrong, inadequate, inferior, and incapable because they perceive what most do not.

    How nice it would be if adults did not generally think that children are empty sponges waiting to be filled with knowledge. Had my parents and educators believed me with respect to some of the most essential things I had to say, how different my life would have been. For me, compulsory education was formalized, legalized abuse.

    Abuse is not just physical. The only difference between physical abuse and mental/emotional abuse is the choice of weapons.
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      Feb 21 2013: I couldn't agree more
    • Feb 24 2013: Whoa! Amazing words! They are likely EXACTLY how my 13 yr old gifted daughter feels! This is so very true for her existence, and my husband and I struggle as parents to cope with her needs. I finally railed at the school's administration for not listening to her and her needs.
      I have found myself time and again telling her to "wait". Wait until next year - It'll be better, etc. How can I reasonably ask a child of 10 or 11 to wait? On one hand that's what she needs to do, on the other hand it is total torture.
      Our educational system does not adequately address these childrens' needs and it is far too bad because they are future of of our world.
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    Feb 17 2013: I think people can be jealous of gifted and creative individuals. They don't realize that gifted, creative people often are working harder than everybody else, but perhaps make it look easy.

    People may be suspicious of gifted, creative individuals, as gifted, creative individuals are often proposing new ideas and new ways of living that are different from the mainstream.
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      Feb 18 2013: Oh, I love the term! "Suspicious"!

      It's like all their actions are being screened every now and then huh? Right right... I never thought of that! Thanks! :)

      Jotted it down! :) Salamat! (Thank you!)
  • Mar 9 2013: I think that there are two topics here. Gifted individuals and creative individuals. Not all gifted individuals are creative and not all creative people are gifted.

    Creative people, in fact, typically don't do all that great on intelligence tests because those tests are heavily weighted towards analytical thinking.

    The best book I have ever seen on creative people is The HISS of the ASP by David Ritchey. ASP stands for anomalously sensitive people.

    Creativity is just another trait that goes along with a whole constellation of personality traits associated highly sensitive people.
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      Mar 9 2013: True indeed. While there is some dispute about it, it is probably most valid to think of the two as overlapping categories, with some people fitting in both and some in only one.
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      Mar 13 2013: That is true :) They are 2 different ideas
  • Mar 4 2013: i have an extremely difficult time not only expressing myself, finding others even remotely interested in that which consumes me, but rare are any hopes of being understood.. as such, a lonely reclusivity with only my mind's eyes is unfortunately my world. it is not a gift - it is a doomed life of complete misunderstanding and marginilization.
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      Mar 4 2013: Start a topic you like, put details about your interests in your profile, and see who responds. If your topic is not eye catching or its to gaudy, work on presenting your information a little better. When you see who responds, check their demographics. Maybe there's a concentration of like mined individuals in a particular network or location.
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    Mar 4 2013: How do you know if you are gifted or creative?
  • Mar 4 2013: I think the challenge is more long-term: acceptance in society and in the business world in particular. Will businesses give the right kind of work (and credit) to gifted individuals, and pay them for their talents and not for their ability to conform to the workplace? How do you develop the unique talent of the gifted individual to its fullest extent, and then have the person use that in the work environment - especially in developing countries such as the Philippines.
  • Mar 3 2013: I should have mentioned that several of my children were identified as gifted in kindergarten. Unfortunately for them, too meant teachers were unwilling/unable to differentiate their curricula and insisted that all steps be completed in the correct sequence before moving on. Most of my children were reading fluently when they began school but were still required to digest every primer and pre primer in existence. My experience in classes with gifted students is that most gifted students will challenge themselves and find work to keep them busy. Truly gifted students often find solace and safety in books.
  • Mar 3 2013: Throughout the comments that I have read, I have seen no mention of Gardiner's theory of Multiple Intelligences. My many years as an elementary educator have convinced me of its validity. Every teacher has encountered students who struggle academically but are brilliant leaders, musicians, artists, athletes, etc. The individual who is gifted/talented in every aspect of learning is a true anomaly. Unfortunately, schools generally focus on cognitive/academic skills as those by which a student is defined. For this reason, it is critical that education be of a classical nature so that any child has an opportunity to shine in her/his area of strength. Perhaps when this is done all gifts will be seen as just that...gifts. Also a student never exposed to art may not realize their talent. The same principle applies to all areas but seems to be easily ignored in the Arts. As for engaging students, I have found that the use of Dramatic Arts ( not theatre) is a "way in" for almost every student for it helps to put the question/problem in a context that allows safe and creative exploration. When I began using Dramatic Arts as a teaching method, it was a watershed moment for me. I had always had the ability to intuit and identify individuals who were gifted but I became even more effective as a teacher and was able to witness creative growth in many who seemed reluctant to take chances previously.
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    Mar 3 2013: I am from Canada, identified as 'gifted' in Grade 4, and I have identified with that gift all my life. Although that giftedness showed as a talent for schoolwork, and is usually interpreted as analytical work, I uncovered my own creativity in stages. So first, it must be clear that in a post-industrial, neo-information economy, creativity is given secondary status to giftedness.
    Second, and especially when a person has the gifts of both logical and non-linear thinking, we are deluged with options. Almost any traditional discipline, from anthropology to zoology, from medicine to management science, are available to us. How does one decide? We are not taught how, and most people project onto us their own image of achievement, and do not or cannot help us identify our own. It may appear to be lovely and charming to have so many options: in reality it is horrific. So many open doors, and no means to select.
    I have had broad experience: architecture, IT, advertising, business strategy, animal genetics, corporate finance, IPOs, privatization, landscape design, political economy, community economic development, diagnostic imaging. Frankly, I suspect that many people read my resume and think I am lying, so I twist it to artfully leave out large swaths to be acceptable. I am tired of the chameleon life. I have been part of innovations in almost every one of the fields listed. But do not be fooled - organizations say they want creativity and innovation, but they are for the most part unable to tolerate us.
    I have learned, later in life now, that one must choose. Variety may be interesting, but it can only offer limited success, and that the real joy comes from mastery, which requires dedication. If I knew then what I know now, I would allow myself to have chosen anything, and would tell myself to trust that the choice is not a loss or a limit, but a passage to freedom within it. Our world values focus, not adaptability, repetition not innovation, in spite of what you hear.
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      Mar 3 2013: Well said . We are intolerable I suppose.. As for myself I have already changed the world somewhat developing software which Kodak has used since I was 19 when I developed this digital innovation for the corporate giant .. 1996 - 2004 were great years although I should have aimed higher. The systems replace Polaroid in malls at Santa venues and theme parks coasters but I feel that's somewhat insignificant as to how or in what way I'd like to help the world and its people .. I know now its tools they need in real world scenarios work play education law government or to earn money since millions sit home after have great careers with corporate giants like GM. These people need help more importantly their children for future economic stability. To me the visions are simplistic yet most can not see .. Which is probably why Mark Z needs to see Instagram or xplatform before he makes his choice and that's fine I can't even spell algorithm but I know what it can do and how and whee to apply it .. This creativity is always with us from early sages that's where order is needed and a standard to be set for the recording or creating of such ideas or innovative solutions. Everyone has their place on a team this position however in bench or Allstar no I between I have weathered both now benched watching Kodak as they have no idea and Facebook with what they can do for people in many walks of life as well as many others I feel I am doing the world and its people am injustice by not voicing that I know what the people need want and how Facebook Google the web the cloud mobile advertising etc can do easily to provide or give back to help and obviously help their bottom line ..

      But whom do I tell now Steve Jobs would have listened for I feel I have the same type vision although I can improve the iPhone features tremendously ... Maybe my mentor is by my side knowing I have true goals to help change and simplify not scams n shame to rape people of their hard earned dollar ..imj2013
    • Mar 4 2013: I recall that, as a grade school student, I began to realize that turning in my test paper 10" before the next kid resulted in resentment of other kids, an invitation to be bullied, no playmates at recess, demands w/o reward from parents expecting perfection as a base line of all performance (can't draw, awkward physically, poor handwriting) accusations of plagiarism for original work, talking too much and generally irritating teachers with questions and needs for alternative activities while waiting for others to finish (beyond, "ok, you can choose a book,") from the 5 or 6 on a back table, and parade my differentness throughout the entire classroom.
      I recall an example from a bright boy's contribution: we'd been studying multiplication memorization from 2 to 3 etc. When we got to 10, he raised his hand and said, "Or, you can just move the decimal point one number to the right."
      Tcher: "That is not what we are learning right now"! !
    • Mar 7 2013: I have had similar problems...when asked "What will you be when you grow up?" I had no answer. The options available overwhelmed me, and I really didn't have any strong guidance. I drifted through school, and I have not been very successful, by many standards (eg. career, relationships, etc.) I have often been angry, and occasionally grateful, to my parents for insisting I stay in public education--angry because it was a great waste of time for me, grateful because it gave me at least a minimum level of social skills.

      Additionally, my own abilities have worked against me in the sense that I have been burdened with the idea of my own intelligence. It is very hard when you know you are smart to accept failure. My lack of success has constantly been a boondoggle, hanging over my shoulder. I have always had the feeling that I am capable of so much more than what I have, yet what could that ephemeral thing be? I am capable of almost anything, and so I don't know where to turn to do something. Most of my life has been defined by what I know I can't do, narrowing the field, when what I so dearly want is some help figuring what I can do.

      And knowing that I am highly capable in potential, I can be paralyzed by the fear of defeat, or the overwhelming view of knowing all that would be required to achieve a goal. Sometimes, someone far less "talented and gifted" than I can accomplish something that I cannot, simply because they do not see the great wave of obstacles standing before them. Taking things one step at a time, without consideration for these factors, is very difficult for me.

      I am rarely satisfied, craving perfection and never achieving it. It is difficult, even, to find good conversation at times. So I post in places like this, or compile other peoples works. I long to be creative, yet I am not able to exercise creativity because I have suffered under the smothering effects of terror of failure for so long. Talking to you now is me trying to escape this terror.
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        Mar 7 2013: Oh Marla (James here...) I hear you. I know that anger and that terror, too.

        My way out of that morass has been first, to rely on Julia Cameron's "The Artist's Way"... get the book, read it and work through the questions, week by week. It does not demand production, only that you care for yourself. It is the only way I have ever found to uncover our creative treasures. It is often a solitary path we tread, but we must walk it.

        Second, pick something to do nearby ("bloom where you are planted"). Third, and I learned this the slow painful way, just pick something, anything. At first, it does. not. matter. (You cannot turn a motionless ship... pick any course, and work with the wind.) You will learn to sail. Later you will master it. And the real joy juice comes from knowing inside that you did it, not any external measures by the world. It is that internal joy juice that fuels the next step.

        Finally, read the book by Brene Brown The Gifts of Imperfection (and revisit her TEDtalks). We need to be vulnerable to let the world in and let our talents out, and Brene has written a wise book about the hurt we feel and how we can honor ourselves.

        I am sure that you, like many of the voices here, have profound intuitive powers. Lean on them now to choose one of these pieces of nourishment.

        James
        • Mar 8 2013: Thanks for your quick response James. I am trying hard to do some of the things you have suggested. I really appreciate the resource suggestions! I will keep on working on this.

          Marla
  • Mar 3 2013: The challenge is to focus and express creative energy and not let it overwhelm you. Creative thoughts simmer down deep and then weave their way to the surface. If they cannot find an outlet, they erupt. They destroy. They cause illness. They poison relationships. They feel almost evil, yet they are our life blood.
    • Mar 4 2013: YES! They become "stressors!"
  • Mar 3 2013: The biggest challenge is that most creative endeavors are tied to the need to make Money from that endeavor. It constrains the diameter of the creative pipeline. Not good or bad.....it just IS...
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    Mar 3 2013: Funding is the easy answer, but the full reason is often not articulated. When we start out as artists, especially independent artists (rather than creative professionals working at a job) we are often not good enough to make money at what we love to do. At this point, we try and try and then give up. As Ira Glass calls it, it's the GAP between our taste and our skills. It takes years to get good at our craft. Most people give up when they get discouraged that their work isn't world-class or at least remunerative. Finding ways to bridge that gap is essential: to get encouragement and support and venues and funding while we get better at crafting and sharing our vision, of becoming successful artists.
    • Mar 8 2013: This gap used to be filled in the traditional arts by a combination of the apprenticeship/journeyman systems from guilds and the patronage of the Renaissance. We could really use something like these systems in the modern age...hopefully without the flaws that these systems had, which led to their ultimate end.
  • Feb 27 2013: Creation is a process that starts with inspiration and is followed by action. To create something, beyond the vision, there's all the work required to bring the idea to life. That part is not so creative anymore, it's mostly just work. I think that's a challenge for the most creative minds, to be able to focus on the gruntwork and the uninteresting details as they see a project to completion.

    To lead a productive life, a creative individual must find an efficient balance between dreams and reality.
  • Feb 27 2013: A major challenge to the gifted and creative in the United States is the culture of bullying. Bullies are threatened by these individuals and feel free therefore to threaten, hurt, demean, and undermine them. In school, bullying is looked at as a right of passage. The media encourages this behavior to get ratings. In the workplace coworkers and bosses participate in this behavior because it is rewarded from above. Today's capitalists promote "innovation" rather than "invention" - i.e. tweaking someone else's work, rather than creating anything new, because it is a quick profit rather than long term costly research. Politicians play to the lowest common denominator, dumb themselves down, and are mean-spirited to get elected. So when a gifted, creative individual comes along they don't fit into the crowd and they make those who profit from mediocrity nervous. The sad thing is, that gifted creative individuals who successfully buck this trend, eventually give in and become bullies themselves.
  • Feb 24 2013: Thanks for your feedback Sherrlene,

    This has not been a struggle but a journey of discovery. As a dyslexic (not profound) I was always on the back foot academically yet seemed to understand and grasp the core values and mechanisms quicker than others.

    I had a natural creative ability and spirit that has guided my path all my life. The biggest hurdle was not being creative, but finding those who understood creativity in itself.

    I feel that the greatest issue is one of frustration in getting people to understand that another world exists on the other side of their mind.

    We are taught to see everything in black & white and if the idea falls beyond this we are asked to question it till it is proven or debunked.

    I have come to the point where I just do.... and wait for the truth of the matter to reveal itself through the actions of those involved.

    And how did I get through, by simply refusing to be anything other than who I am. This has not been the best path as you can imagine, but despite the issues this has 'created" in my life I would not have it any other way.

    Creativity is a state of mind, that when embraced "like a drug" will send you on journeys without end, sights beyond imagination and experiences that will leave you breathless.

    The real challenge is find others brave enough to come with you.
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      Feb 25 2013: Hey Michael you are amazing! :) I am particularly happy that you're able to overcome your dyslexia and made yourself aware of it and the things you can do to improve yourself^^ NICE!

      I agree with you that there are people who frown because others do not see the same light as they do. It is like THE ONLY CORRECT ANSWER IS THEIR EXPECTED ANSWER (which is not possible).

      In the school where I am teaching, it is (almost) forbidden to tag a student's answer as WRONG because he might be right in his own respect.

      EXPECTATIONS kill the creative minds of people, would you agree? We tend to put these people in cans of sardines, pack them and declare that they are good stuffs because they're controlled. The norms in our society now dictates what's "normal" and what's not. So when you're "different" it always goes to the negative perspective.

      Here's a hug >:D< Thank you Michael for sharing
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      Feb 27 2013: Michael: Most excellent post!
  • Feb 21 2013: As a creative, and one who has to work within the paradigm of business, I see not the creative as the issue, but those who have to deal with the creative.

    Most of the business leaders I deal with are left brain thinkers, not to say they themselves don't possess creativity in some form, but more they can't calculate it in an academic way. I have experienced this response to ideas and creative thinking most of my life and now, with bitter sweet resolve, except and work with it.

    Being a creative has always been a lonely place on this planet, it is what makes us special. Embrace this loneliness and let your mind roam free of the clutter.

    The greatest challenge "in a nutshell" is to not care about the challenge but get on with feeding the gift with out fear.
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      Feb 23 2013: Hi Michael! thank you for sharing this! : I truly appreciate your thoughts. I was just wondering, how did you manage to get through it all? I hope you can share some of your struggles as a creative individual :) Thanks
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    Feb 18 2013: Though India is a very good country as far as religeous freedom is concerned. But gifted individuals may face opposition from pockets of religeous fundametalists.Main challenge they face is that they have to be politically correct.
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      Feb 18 2013: Hi Adesh! I hope you wouldn't mind if I ask more information about the status of gifted and talented individuals in your country. I'd love to hear more from you :) Thank you!
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    Feb 17 2013: 1. Acceptance of individual differences by family, friends, community, country and the world. People differ on many traits.No two persons are exactly alike. Normally, the less gifted ones don't accept the higher gifted-ness quotient of the more gifted ones. They tend to disparage or downplay the unique ability of such naturally gifted individuals.
    2. Defiance to Societal norms creates new set of problems.
    3. Conformity
    4. Lack of adequate Exposure and recognition to such individuals
    5. Self-pacing while learning course materials is not necessarily an available option.
    6. Social isolation. Loneliness.
    7. Boredom due to monotonous nature of work.
    8. Labels that not so creative individuals assign to them.
    9. Lack of career counselling facilities.
    10. Lack of Mentors.
    11. Lack of Motivation.
    12. Substance abuse
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      Feb 18 2013: So would you guys agree that while most people think that technology help creative enhancement, it can also kill the talent? How is that so? Thanks to you both :)
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        Feb 18 2013: I would GUESS that is kills talent because it works as a sedative - just like any other mind-numbing drug. Humans are a social animal. The gifted live in part in another world. Technology can in some small way, bridge the divide. But I'm not so sure that the gifted that I speak of get caught up in the addiction to hormonal responses that technology invokes.

        How can one study this if those who study don't know what a truly gifted child's world looks like because they equate "gifted" with too much emphasis on "learning style"?
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      Feb 24 2013: You've listed them so clearly. I would add DEPRESSION. I have a nearly 13 yr old gifted daughter and this becomes the consequence of all that Atul outlined above. My daughter struggles with trying to control her anger at the "stupidity" of everyone else around her because it takes so long for them to "get it" when it takes her only a few seconds. She is clustered with other TAG students, which helps, but doesn't alleviate the mind-numbing boredom she feels when classes are paced for the common student. I'd like to place her in another school, but between cost and the fact that it would affect her friendships I haven't.
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        Feb 25 2013: I feel for your daughter. There MIGHT be an option. I had a friend whose daughter had the same complains as yours (and as I did - though I didn't rail at the stupidity of others. I railed at the boredom and disrespect shown me by teachers in oh-so-many subtle ways.)

        When my friend's daughter was ready to quit (in her junior year), her parents were alarmed. Luckily, the father was well placed as the director of a museum, so he walked in circles that my parents didn't walk in. He heard about how Exeter Academy (New Hampshire) might be the solution for her.

        Exeter Academy is where movers and shakers from around the world send their children. These are very wealthy people who endow the school with significant funds. These funds are used (in part) for scholarships for those special ones who would otherwise be unable to find a suitable education. My friend's daughter received a partial scholarship - based on the parent's income (which was not "poor").

        At Exeter, there are no rows of desks. There are circular tables. Class size is 8-10. Students aren't given mathematical formulas to memorize. They are given word problems and must then find a formula that leads them to the answer. They then present their findings to the other students.

        Imagine what it would feel like to suddenly be told that "you are smart enough to do this"! Imagine realizing how much more you can do that anyone ever thought you could do. Imagine learning the leadership skills that such practices engage. Imagine coming away from school with self-esteem still in tact. What an advantage!

        I would love to engage in the education of students. I know how good I am at it when children are around. Unfortunately, I gave up on school when I graduated H.S. I just couldn't endure the torture any more. I began educating myself - and WHOAH!!!! How much fun that was! How much better educated I am than most of the world: A very broad-based education I wish for everyone.

        Isolation remains
  • Mar 11 2013: Central I think is communication, looking at he notebooks of leonardo davinci as an example; I have three but importantly 'without' drawings & illustrations. This to me became obvious and very disruptive so having a clear comprehension of his expressions without this form of leonardo's communications made them much less understandable, okay to me. lol Additional point, I know a brilliant son of a ivy physicist who is pigeonholed as attention disordered who is very much thwarted by this diagnosis emotionally I feel it stymies his pursuit big time.
  • Mar 10 2013: Staying alive. Creative people need to receive money income that reflects the value of their work over time. The way things are now, first they need to die to receive sufficient respect and the money value of their creative output goes to the marketing sector, rather than the creators of the valuable goods and services.
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      Mar 13 2013: I think this is a problem for everyone. Sad isnt it? thanks Rhona
      • Mar 14 2013: You are welcome, Sherriene. Let's change our world to continuously elevate the joy level of all humanity.
  • Mar 10 2013: Earning a living.

    The internet has raised the expectation of the public that creative works are free and this has made a difficult and unpredictable working environment even more so.

    Creative workers have always had to be self-reliant and resourceful but now I would say they have to consider whether creative endeavors are a viable way to earn a living to support a family or whether we should approach our work as a hobby (i.e., not depend on earning much).