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Can we think without any presumptions?

Questions arised from one of the conversation and a reminiscence of a old lady who said:"nobody is right but me."

Are we free of personal bias when we think?
how reliable it is for us ourselves to judge if we are free of personal bias or not ?

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    Feb 24 2013: Presumptions are a necessary part of thinking freely, without getting too stuck in the past or the present.

    Some presumptions hit the nail, some don't, and I end up hitting my own thumb. But that pain is good learning - possibly the best of all.
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      Feb 24 2013: Hi Allan,
      I agree that we can use presumptions as a learning "tool", when/if we do not get "stuck" in the presumption.
      To do that, we need to be aware that the thought IS a presumption.....yes? If the only tool we have is a hammer, we see everything as a nail! LOL:>)


      Often, presumptions ("expect or assume with confidence; to suppose to be true without proof; to take for granted") reflect personal bias. If we are stuck with our own idea of personal bias based on presumptions, we may miss the opportunity to learn something from the thought/presumption, which becomes our one and only truth? I think when that happens, it gets in the way of learning anything.
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        Feb 25 2013: Hi Colleen,

        I wonder if truths can only exist within consensus?

        I guess the seed of an idea or 'truth' has to start somewhere in the mind of someone thinking outside the boundaries of conventional wisdom - an individual - which then can convert from a personal truth into a broader one by seeking (and being open to) such consensus.

        But then there's the pitfall of confirmation bias - which is probably a precursor of rigid belief systems and faith...

        Thinking without presumption I guess depends on a lot of receptiveness and openness - and the courage to admit to being wrong - a difficult thing to maintain when confronted by those who seem very 'closed' within their own beliefs.
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          Feb 25 2013: Dear Allan,
          I'm pondering/thinking without presumptions...LOL:>)

          Can truths only exist within consensus?

          "Truths" are based on information we have been given, which we accept as truth....yes?

          Everyone's perception of "truth" may be different depending on what information s/he is given and accepts?

          I would say that a person's "truth" certainly can be reinforced within consenses. With the information I have at this time, I agree with you that the seed of an idea may start somewhere in the mind of someone thinking outside the boundaries of conventional wisdom, and that individual would probably seek reinforcment? Then again.....I believe everything is interconnected, and information is recycled, so is there any original thought?

          I wholeheartedly agree that thinking without presumption needs receptiveness and openness. If we are receptive and open, it may take less "courage" to explore with an open heart and mind when confronted by those who seem very closed within their own beliefs/presumptions:>)

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