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After learning a language -Why can't anyone go back and narrate what and how one experienced during the first year?

It will be interesting to explore the reasons that fill the "gap of inability" between the most efficient language learning phase and "culture bound listening phase" as Patricia says . After learning a language what prevents one to go back and bring insights, describe from that efficient learning phase in one's life. Being convinced that these insights / description once known will be objectively measurable as well. It seems the challenge in using MEG has a bias. Thus - what are those factors that prevent one to go back and recall the baby experiences while a language gets learnt - it may add new vocabulary or use existing words in a new perspective to share with others.


Closing Statement from Charan Singh

Thank you all - the spectrum of responses - from Ed Schulte, Natasha Nikulina, Casey to Adriaan Braam- brought amazing insights on this theme. My question and replies were driven by the knowledge I acquired through some, available to humanity, core sources of Wisdom that are little explored - though seems extremely beneficial for solving our current problems. The reason to ask this question was to further explore and find equivalent knowledge terms that can be commonly understood by all. Must say I tried exploring ,not missing even a small reference about " The Word" and how little we know about The Word that manifests through language as our World. Interestingly, I learnt about a Oneness frequency C132/A 432 Hrz that further led me to a great related article link http://www.jwmt.org/v1n4/readlight.html and another book title: P.D.Ouspensky - The Fourth Way, that accepts and addresses to the question asked here " why one doesn't remember and how can one develop that memory that remembers everything " Present day Science or pedagogy - sorry to state, addresses or knows only about two dimensions of that memory that inherits the potential to be developed into four. It is not about religion or faith or worshiping - it is purely about the knowledge accessible to mankind that can be gained through - easy to make observations, experiments not subjective experiences, comparisons, analysis - and using all other tools a scientific mind would use or prefer to use.

I remain indebted to all who participated and shared their valuable inputs on this thread. Thank you.

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  • Mar 13 2013: basically there are 2 sections of your brain. one part thinks, the other is automatic. when you read a book or do any other single activity, your thinking section is used and so you can recall the story. however, when learning a skill such as catching a ball, your thinking brain will pass the information over to the automatic section over time, so that eventually you'll be able to catch a ball without thinking about moving. this also means that you won't be able to describe which muscles you moved to catch the ball and in what order, because your automatic section did it all for you, and similarly you weren't aware of when and how your automatic section got the hang of this ability. the same goes with language, unless you learn by the grammar-translation method, which keeps everything in your thinking brain, but that also means you will never be competent with the language.
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      Mar 13 2013: Thinking is actually a how body experience, your cells think, it the communication that you get from your cells that tells you(brain) what to do and what to think. The brain most certainly could be seen as the processor or translator. Think about reflexes, do you think when you put you hand on something hot? Of course you do you are actual using the same part of the brain that tennis plays use to hit a tennis ball. The cool think about tennis players is they dont actual "see" with their eyes when the hit the ball simply because the ball it move to fast for our eye to catch
      • Mar 13 2013: you've misunderstood there. and also you might try reading about what i said anyway, it's very interesting.
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          Mar 14 2013: Yes I am sorry, very good information. It actually a gland in the brain that does "automatic" think and its not really "automatic" it just faster way of processing information. So your brain function at level x in every day life. But if we try to use this gland to think with instead of just our "brain" one could drive with out "seeing" because your whole body would be functioning at this higher level.....in theory it would be much like have spider senses, because your body would be thinking by "feeling" instead of reaction thinking
      • Mar 15 2013: kinda but it's not that black and white. it's not a higher level either it's just a different one, it works faster because thinking isn't needed. an analogy is say you go to a cafe every morning and you order your favourite brew. every day they ask you what would you like and you order the same, so eventually they get used to it and you just have to show up and they hand you your coffee without you having to order it - you're not on a "higher level" of communication or anything. you wouldn't be able to drive without seeing because your brain still needs that sensory input to know what to do and when, all that happens is the processes that you used to have to consciously think about when you were learning to drive become 'automatic'.
    • Mar 14 2013: @Ben - that seems very interesting . Do you mean the feeding of language pieces make the auto mode brain a to perform with out thinking.
      • Mar 14 2013: yeah i guess you could call it reflex action, though not just for completing an action, it can be for whole actions, such as when a car is coming toward you you swerve out of the way without having to think "wow i'd better turn the steering wheel in order to avoid this crash", or for parts of an action, such as when you you want a drink you think about taking a drink but you don't think about reaching for the grasp and grasping it because that is taken care of in the automatic section of your brain.

        language works in the same way. for example the japanese learners i teach when the start, see a tree and think 'ki' (japanese for tree) which they then translate into 'tree', then at some point they no longer to use the intermediate step because they automatically think 'tree' in english when they see one.
        • Mar 14 2013: Thanks Ben. information highway where L1 helps in L2 learning is okay , however, how L0 connects L1 - (L0 -the time when as a child one only wonders, getting language more visually or through touch /luv and so on?)
      • Mar 15 2013: that's a very good follow up question! actually i looked into this in depth some years ago while trying to work out what the best ways to help the most students learn most easily were. the largest pathways to the brain by far are the visual ones (something like 16 times the data volume of the ears and everything else combined), though the learning environment has to be suitable to allow to children to learn from what they are seeing. very young children of course learn by listening but that's not all, they also look intently at parents' mouths.

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