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Jordan Schwall

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Is it possible for both Karl Marx and Ayn Rand to be correct?

MY IDEOLOGY IS SO FORTH SUSPENDED

Two pop-cultural experiences this week got me thinking; is it possible that both capitalism and socialism have their place in society? Is this what historically maintains economic equilibrium (at least, one theoretical and organic)? We industrialize, followed by a period of economic redistribution and cultural 'flourishing,' and repeat this process. 



These two contrasting ideas both had their time in history, and here is pop-culture to prove it: 

television: socialism, Marx

“Do what will make you happy, and don’t lie to yourself, the latter of course a main theme of the series. “I always thought that you were very single-minded about your dreams and that that would help you through life,” he tells her. “But now I see that you skipped the struggle and went right to the end.” “It’s not the end, it’s the beginning,” Megan says. “This apartment, this wealth that someone handed to you,” he replies. “This is what Karl Marx was talking about. And it’s not because someone else deserves it. It’s because it is bad for your soul.” “Don’t pick at me with your politics because you hate that I love Don,” she says. “No, I hate that you give up. Don’t let your love for this man stop you from doing what you want to do.” 
-- Mad Men (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2049173/)



literature: capitalism, Rand

How to Get a Job on Wall Street: PROVEN WAYS TO LAND A HIGH-PAYING, HIGH-POWERED JOB
-- Scott Hoover (http://www.amazon.com/How-Get-Job-Wall-Street/dp/0071778535)

Look at the here and now: we value economic achievement, a capitalist ideal. but on a temporal economic scale, say the 1920s, marxism attempted to redistribute those economic achievements so that people could work less and thrive culturally (marxism was obviously only a consideration in economic policy that would change, at the time, failing capitalism). Many contend that the same is being done now (Obama as changing capitalism). Is there a natural cycle to this?

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    Feb 14 2013: Why are we still talking about Marxism? It's failed miserably everywhere it was tried. It's even failing in China. Now those still enamored of the idea try to somehow distance Marxism from Communism, though they're about as separable as capitalism and civil rights.

    Marxism has been tried and it failed. Let it die.
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      Feb 14 2013: it failed before it was tried. why mises is missing from our history textbooks??
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      Feb 14 2013: We're not talking about being proactive, that is, advocating implementing Marxism; we're discussing (or at least I'm hoping to) historical trends and economic cycles.

      JS

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