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We will NOT find an alternative to energy dense, easily transportable conventional oil in time to sustain indefinate economic growth.

All alternative energies have one or more disadvantages that do not let them compete with cheap conventional oil.

Given our industrial civilization depends on massive amounts of cheap energy, the reliance on conventional oil is enormous.

The only quick solution I see is a drastic downscaling of economic activity.

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  • Feb 15 2013: I once read somwhere that there was a vast amount of energy in 1 cubic metre of seawater.

    I think that peak oil has come and gone long ago, fuel prices, gas prices will not get better, only worse as the reserves run towards empty,
    is this a problem, i think it is,
    is this a lifestyle changer, absolutely.

    I agree that the downscaling of economic activity is a positive step to sustaining the existing 1st world lifestyles, however, it then begins the countdown to destruction, as we are sooooo dependent on oil and its products and byproducts, at the current rate, it would take almost 20 years to affect a usable alternative, this is because of two distinct reasons:

    1: People dont like change and are afraid of anything new, this is quite silly, but comes from the primal identifying system which acts to fight or flight, we are no longer hunter/gatherers, we are shabby, shic shoppers carrying man bags and drinking soda's, we have air conditioning and hair dryers, cell phones and apps to keep us amused all day, facebook and other social media connections, we have attempted to ëvolve" but have lost the ability to hunt and gather, to feed ourselves, look how long it took to sell automobiles to every household in the country?
    so we dont like change in a quick pace, we are afraid of change and tackling "problems".

    2: People are often lazy, "ïf it aint broke, dont fix it", well its broke, it has been for a while now, but we havent yet fixed it, we havent agreed on a transition to an alternative, we grasp at straws, we invent, we develop, we spend, all the while we use, use, use, more more more.
    use goes up, supply lowers, and the difficulty is increased, the incentive is not clear enough in peoples minds, so they sit, they wait, they watch, some dare not try, some disappear while trying to patent, this is what we are.


    we have lost hunter gatherers, but gained the worship of money, why i ask?
    • Feb 15 2013: Lionel, I agree with your points.

      There is going to be a long lag time from an oil based economy to whatever is next (If there is a next). Like you said fuel prices are set only to get more expensive. Since conventional oil production is on the decline the need for implementation of a viable alternative is now, or 10 years ago!

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