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We will NOT find an alternative to energy dense, easily transportable conventional oil in time to sustain indefinate economic growth.

All alternative energies have one or more disadvantages that do not let them compete with cheap conventional oil.

Given our industrial civilization depends on massive amounts of cheap energy, the reliance on conventional oil is enormous.

The only quick solution I see is a drastic downscaling of economic activity.

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    Feb 14 2013: Non linear systems are very hard to predict.
    Firstly, we have the ecosystem (including geosphere, hydrosphere, atmosphere and biosphere).
    Secondly we have the human value economy.
    Then we expect to be able to control the combination of these 2 massively chaotic systems?

    There is a ton of science dedicated to this problem, and no one can say.

    But there are limits. Just how many natural disasters can be withstood by economic infratructure?
    And what of the in-built tipping points in economy .. Fukashima for instance. Many countries have hundreds of Fukashimas just waiting to poison large patches of the "spheres" for thousands of years.
    What happens when the USA food machine gets irradiated, blown over by tornados, droughts and floods?
    Can't eat cars.

    Downscaling appears to be built-in - weather we like it or not ;)

    Having non-linear solutions such as renewables might buy us some time .. but think: if we do solve the "clean energy" conundrum, then we will still be increasing the raw energy injection into our spheres .. no one seems to be talking about that ... why not?

    SO the 350ppm CO2 is false - it has to be a continuous reduction beyond that to allow all this "clean energy" to escape to space.

    Entropy will have its way. Economy cannot withstand it.

    Downsize is not the answer - the answer is to re-join the ecology. And it will hapen anyway - as a species or as compost.

    The choice is whether we go gracefully or disgracefully.

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