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Do right and wrong exist?

I'm curious about objective right and wrong. If you believe in God, this is a no-brainer. Some things are wrong, some things are right, simply because God says so and He knows. But if you don't believe in God, can you still believe in objective morality? I personally don't think you can. I mean, what do you base it off of? How do you find out what's objectively right or wrong? (By objective I mean "existing independent of thought or an observer as part of reality." from dictionary.com)
Sure, there's subjective morality. Any idea of right or wrong come up with by a human is by definition subjective. That's all well and good. Problem is that it only applies to people who believe in it and it gives them no authority to proclaim anything as "what we should be doing." Very often everybody disagrees with each other and we don't get anywhere. (Just look at Congress for an example of this.)
Maybe you disagree with me and you think there is objective morality but no God. That's fine. I would like to ask you to answer a question for me though. Let's pick an easy one. Why is rape objectively wrong? Don't misunderstand me, I can't think of a single instance where rape wouldn't be wrong. I believe very strongly that sexual abuse is one of the greatest evils in the world. Why is it evil? If you can answer me without using a God-based or subjective argument, I'll concede the point.
That point is this: Without God, there is no such thing as right and wrong, only the things we call right and wrong. And since nobody can agree on what to call what, we're all in a lot of trouble.


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  • Mar 3 2013: I do not think that God necessarily has to be a source of morality and morals. Bible(a.k.a God's words) has great morals and also great lessons. Apart from this, I believe that every human is created evil at first but becomes good as they grow and age. The process of someone being good or evil will be decided during growth. If someone chooses to embrace 'right' morals, he is considered 'good' in our society. If someone chooses not to embrace 'right' morals, he is considered 'bad'. If God is nonexistent, all the morals that were wrote in the Bible is merely an opinion. As the human race increased in size and populations, we have determined a lot of things. Such as one being one. If we choose to call one two, we will be counting two..blahblahblah. In case when God is non-existent, morals are just opinion and things that human decided to choose and decide. Not single supernatural whatever all powerful creature haven't told us what is right and wrong except God. If God was non-existent, as I state again, all this moral and lesson comes from human mind.
    Who knows? There might be a civilization where rape is considered as a good, healthy thing to do. This will probably sound crazy for some people. However, this is merely my opinion on this subject. I welcome all the replies and extra thoughts on this matter.Thanks for reading

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