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Do right and wrong exist?

I'm curious about objective right and wrong. If you believe in God, this is a no-brainer. Some things are wrong, some things are right, simply because God says so and He knows. But if you don't believe in God, can you still believe in objective morality? I personally don't think you can. I mean, what do you base it off of? How do you find out what's objectively right or wrong? (By objective I mean "existing independent of thought or an observer as part of reality." from dictionary.com)
Sure, there's subjective morality. Any idea of right or wrong come up with by a human is by definition subjective. That's all well and good. Problem is that it only applies to people who believe in it and it gives them no authority to proclaim anything as "what we should be doing." Very often everybody disagrees with each other and we don't get anywhere. (Just look at Congress for an example of this.)
Maybe you disagree with me and you think there is objective morality but no God. That's fine. I would like to ask you to answer a question for me though. Let's pick an easy one. Why is rape objectively wrong? Don't misunderstand me, I can't think of a single instance where rape wouldn't be wrong. I believe very strongly that sexual abuse is one of the greatest evils in the world. Why is it evil? If you can answer me without using a God-based or subjective argument, I'll concede the point.
That point is this: Without God, there is no such thing as right and wrong, only the things we call right and wrong. And since nobody can agree on what to call what, we're all in a lot of trouble.

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    Mar 3 2013: I think that there are good actions and not so good actions. It all depends in our experiences and the way we see our present world. But what I'm really convinced of is that everything we do in this life, everything, eventually will return to us in the exact way we did. For example if you give money to a friend because he really needs it that action will return to you maybe not as money given from a stranger but it will return.
    • Mar 3 2013: "But what I'm really convinced of is that everything we do in this life, everything, eventually will return to us in the exact way we did. For example if you give money to a friend because he really needs it that action will return to you maybe not as money given from a stranger but it will return."

      It may help you to know that this sort of thing is referred to as bread upon the waters, just in case you didn't already know :-).
    • Mar 3 2013: While a persuasive argument it advocates a simple answer to a complex question. There are more things to consider than karma, such as conformation bias and law of large numbers that make these seemingly random experiences appear connected. In order to achieve a universal answer beyond 'good things happen to good people and bad things happen to bad people' as karma suggests, factors such as how the person was acting and presenting their selves must also be taken into consideration.

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