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Casey Christofaris

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How do we prove an answer

that it How do we prove an answer


I just want to clarify that I do love science and the understanding of the universe that it has brought us. As well as the tech

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  • Feb 16 2013: Well since you brought the "J" name in ( below in reply to Raam)

    I thought "ahh what the heck ....."

    To prove an answer ....I am assuming you imply ...proving a Truth ...is my assumption close here??

    If so

    there are two types of Truth ( and is because we Humans are dualistic in nature )

    1) Relative Truth... in which therefore.. there is nothing we know now that wont change when we know more ...( part one of our HUman nature is that we are always evolving ...towards the infinite )

    2) Absolute Truth ....That which we always were and always will be ....but can't be known/quantifed/qualified with the limitation of lower mind BUT can be experienced ...iow known Subjectively. The often used term for this is "Self-evident."

    Compassion would be an example of a "Self evident" (Absolute) Truth .......and a choice example of "How do we/i prove an answer"
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      Feb 16 2013: Would this be "self evident" truth?

      So let me see if I can use logic and reason to show you how you need to use their logic and reason. To not prove them wrong but to show them that there is other truth. So you can pick any topic you want and any side of the said topic and I will debate the other side. See to get someone to believe what you say is truth you first have to understand their side as truth as well. Not that it wrong and it clearly might be(like anyone who would say oil is not toxic).

      It is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles; if you do not know your enemies but do know yourself, you will win one and lose one; if you do not know your enemies nor yourself, you will be imperiled in every single battle. ~ Sun Tzu Art of War

      Now it doesn't matter how the argument is going once I figure out how you came to your knowledge of truth I can figure out your thought "pattern" or common sense. Once I understand that I can use your common sense thats right your common sense to prove my information as truth. Not as I am right your wrong but just that there is other truth. Edited: I dont even need to believe that what I am trying to debate is truth or not, I just need to except that it can be

      And as far as Sub, object question go. I like to say that it's not that I think inside the box or outside of the box. I realize that its all box's and I try to think in all of them.
      • Feb 16 2013: Re:" not that I think inside the box or outside of the box. I realize that its all box's and I try to think in all of them."

        Or just remove yourself from the biggest box of all time ....

        by stop trying to be "right" about anything

        As W. Shakespeare puts it

        "Nothing is either right or wrong, but thinking makes it so."
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          Feb 16 2013: See it's not about being right. Because I clearly could be wrong. Like arguing that oil is not toxic. However I will always be able to get you to believe my false truth because I would be using your self logic and self evidence/proof to show you that what I am saying can be "seen" as truth as well.

          And it will make complete sense to you because it is as if the information came from yourself. Because its your thought "pattern" or common sense that I am using to convey information that could be true or false
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          Feb 16 2013: Another way to look at this is positive and negative manipulation. Eventually I will be leading you to ask questions that I want you to ask, so that way I can tell you information that I want you to hear in a way that makes complete sense. And it will make complete sense to you because I will be using your common sense to get you to believe my truth. And you wont even realize that I am doing it. From the out side it will look like I am arguing with you but in reality I will be agree with you to the point where you prove me right. While also not saying you are wrong because I have been agreeing with you the whole time. Because I except your side as truth
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          Feb 17 2013: @Ed Schulte ... I would say that Shakespeare was a play-writer and had a talent for drama and wordplay, and a great bard he was. I studied him in High School. If I said in my geometry class "a straight line cannot be drawn between to points because Shakespeare says it is so" I would have been bounced out of the class and sent to the dean of students for being a wiseacre.

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